Originally Posted by Asiabound
(Post 2678862)
Is this for sure to end?
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 2678886)
All UPS-subcontracted flying currently performed by Western Global and 21Air to be transferred to IPA pilots flying Browntails no later than 29 June 2019, per an arbitrator’s consent award.
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Only if UPS wants to flaunt an arbitrator's decision.
I see absolutely ZERO circumstance in which the IPA would agree to an extension beyond the arbitrator's consent award, ESPECIALLY given we've taken delivery of five 748 and one 763BCF this year, will take one more 748 and two more 763BCFs by the end of the year, and in 2019 will get six additional 748s and four or five factory new 763s. The company can't claim "we don't have lift!" anymore. |
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 2678895)
Only if UPS wants to flaunt an arbitrator's decision.
I see absolutely ZERO circumstance in which the IPA would agree to an extension beyond the arbitrator's consent award, ESPECIALLY given we've taken delivery of five 748 and one 763BCF this year, will take one more 748 and two more 763BCFs by the end of the year, and in 2019 will get six additional 748s and four or five factory new 763s. The company can't claim "we don't have lift!" anymore. Safe travels. |
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 2678895)
Only if UPS wants to flaunt an arbitrator's decision.
I see absolutely ZERO circumstance in which the IPA would agree to an extension beyond the arbitrator's consent award, ESPECIALLY given we've taken delivery of five 748 and one 763BCF this year, will take one more 748 and two more 763BCFs by the end of the year, and in 2019 will get six additional 748s and four or five factory new 763s. The company can't claim "we don't have lift!" anymore. |
Originally Posted by howardhughes8
(Post 2678989)
And to add one more piece, the award is enforceable in court, meaning we can get an immediate injunction IF the company doesn’t end it by the specified date. Language was pretty clear. Never know what can happen, but the arbitrators decision was pretty clear and gives the IPA a clear win in case the company wants to do it again (outside of the normal subcontracting allowed).
I rather have the jobs (you cannot say that on the bar and grill). BV days do not add much to a persons life that is borderline becoming a captain or junior in their seat and would like a few extra bodies under them. It really only benefits the senior captains. The company won. Not fair and not square. |
Originally Posted by FrontSeat2
(Post 2679495)
The company is not going to end it and 2 maybe 4 years from now we will have a few more banked vacation days. Big Fing deal, and this is what most crews are talking about aside from the bar and grill where it is forbidden to express your views unless you align with the 10 people who post on there.
I rather have the jobs (you cannot say that on the bar and grill). BV days do not add much to a persons life that is borderline becoming a captain or junior in their seat and would like a few extra bodies under them. It really only benefits the senior captains. The company won. Not fair and not square. |
Originally Posted by howardhughes8
(Post 2679544)
If the company does not stop it by end date, the IPA will have a court injunction the next day, yes, it was that clear.
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Originally Posted by FrontSeat2
(Post 2679495)
The company is not going to end it and 2 maybe 4 years from now we will have a few more banked vacation days. Big Fing deal, and this is what most crews are talking about aside from the bar and grill where it is forbidden to express your views unless you align with the 10 people who post on there.
I rather have the jobs (you cannot say that on the bar and grill). BV days do not add much to a persons life that is borderline becoming a captain or junior in their seat and would like a few extra bodies under them. It really only benefits the senior captains. The company won. Not fair and not square. I, too would rather have the jobs. Thanks to the arbitrator's ruling, hiring IPA pilots is now the most cost-effective way to move volume subject to Article One. Job well done. I'm not a senior captain, but I'm happy to have the BV days. I get that you're not, and I respect that. |
Originally Posted by FrontSeat2
(Post 2679495)
It really only benefits the senior captains
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