FTv3

Sure, you can forego interview prep and be successful as you have demonstrated. Worth the risk? IMHO, absolutely not. First, you are competing with other candidates, almost all of whom have prepared with a company. All things considered, you probably ain’t gunna perform as well them. You certainly won’t be as polished, and at UPS you’re not just interviewing for a job, you’re interviewing for your pool pecking order. You want to nail the interview, not simply pass it.

Second, are you telling them you really want this job and are doing everything you can to win this lottery ticket by skimping on interview prep? They do commonly ask, “what have you done to prepare for this interview?” Everybody else is doing it, why not you?

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Don’t mean to jump on you here but this is a typical rationalization argument from the no-prep crowd and total BS. The training does none of this. They do teach you tips, skills, and hands on training to give your interviewer the best chance to get to know the real you. Sure, your idea of the best TMAAT story you have might differ from the one they suggest you use, but they are both you and your experiences. Nothing fake about that. Also, you could go on a mindless 15 min babble when asked to “tell us about yourself.” The interview prep companies clean all that up into a nice and logical, entertaining presentation conveying the maximal amount of information about you to your interviewer. Again, none of that is phony just cause it’s organized and well though out. And you may have a bunch of quips and quirks you have no idea about when you interview. They find them and work with you to reduce them. Nothing wrong with presenting a little more kept, tidy in a behavioral aspect. In short, they aren’t teaching you a character to play for an audition, they are helping you to present the best version of yourself.

Have you seen anyone who did prep ever complain about it or regret doing it, anywhere?

C2078

At least one. Emerald Coast was a total waste of money. Two direct friends, both at UPS, said Adam Hughes was overpriced and not worth it.

Now RST for tech prep (Fedex and Delta), that is invaluable, simply because it’s technical knowledge directly on the test, including the cognitive prep, very good as well.

BoilerUP

I would strongly disagree, based on my experience.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we're back to neutral there

C2078

That is the beauty Boiler, we can agree to disagree and still have some cervezas 🍺😬

FTv3

There is so much gouge out there and practice runs for the cog and psych portion. Hiring a company to organize and administer this material for you...

C2078

Try finding/organizing everything in a timely manner, especially when you have a short period of time to prepare. Plus they pretty much tell you what is going to be on testing. If you are interviewing with Delta or Fedex, the SBI at EC does help. But for UPS, ehhhhh. So again amigo, we can agree to disagree 😬. Cheers!

C2078

How ‘bout 3 1/2 weeks from interview to sitting in class? CJO 2 days after interview, never in the pool. Would of received CJO on the spot had Dan Thomas not been out of town. From first call to class under 4 months, and only ‘cause I could not fit in interview sooner, had 2 other big six to prepare for and schedule around work.

So maybe my experience is a bit biased 😉

FTv3

If you’re not going to argue why you disagree, what’s the point of posting? If you got some valid points on the matter to share with people in the hiring process, share them so THEY can make their own decisions. That’s the sole purpose of this thread - helping people out. No one cares if you think it’s a waste of money.

FTv3

Another example of an Emerald Coast customer....

C2078

I definitely would not attribute it to EC. I had interviewed at other places in the past, could not pull the trigger to leave job at the time, maybe that prepared me.

So, I felt the UPS interview was very relaxed and fluid, unlike the 2 other big six interviews, which were more structured and “rigid”. To your point, the UPS interviewers made you feel very comfortable and I felt like I was having a conversation with a friend. No conflict, just answer the questions honestly. I was not worried about the “structure” of the answer. A few questions I even responded back with question to/about them. I have noticed the hardest part for people is RELAXING, this makes a huge difference. Yes, much is at stake, but, it is what it is. UPS HR interview is very different than the 2 other big six I went to. They dissect your resume to find out about you! Very few canned questions, unlike the other 2 that had a script, not UPS. Just like the job now, UPS does things the UPS way.

This should help our future colleagues.

My advice to folks that want to come here, BE YOURSELF! Mentally prepare as you are going to talk to a friend about your life. The usual smile, polite, but don’t overdue it. They will see right through you. These folks are very well trained at seeing through fakeness, unlike the other 2 which wanted to hear mostly canned responses (IMO).

As far as sim, if you can fly an airplane, you can pass that simple sim eval. Mine was in the Bus, very straight forward, no prep, basic airmanship and CRM. When I interviewed at a ME carrier YEARS AGO, my sim eval was in A330, never flown a sidestick, did just fine, basic airmanship.