Class Drops
03-29-2022, 05:39 AM
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Generally speaking:
A "heavy" class and a "light twin" class, one day apart. Heavies are 747 and MD11 with the occasional SDFZ 767 thrown in, light twins are 757 and A300. Specific drops change with each class, and classes bid for the drop vacancies by seniority (age).
747 vacancies going forward are all in ANC, MD11 is SDF, A300 is SDF, 757 in SDF, MIA and ONT.
ANC 747 is junior for heavies, ONT 757 is junior for light twins, A300 typically goes junior to SDF 757.
Recent heavy classes are a majority ANC 747, light twins tend to be a majority of SDF 757 with some ONT 757, SDF A300 and a sprinkling of SDFZ.
A "heavy" class and a "light twin" class, one day apart. Heavies are 747 and MD11 with the occasional SDFZ 767 thrown in, light twins are 757 and A300. Specific drops change with each class, and classes bid for the drop vacancies by seniority (age).
747 vacancies going forward are all in ANC, MD11 is SDF, A300 is SDF, 757 in SDF, MIA and ONT.
ANC 747 is junior for heavies, ONT 757 is junior for light twins, A300 typically goes junior to SDF 757.
Recent heavy classes are a majority ANC 747, light twins tend to be a majority of SDF 757 with some ONT 757, SDF A300 and a sprinkling of SDFZ.
03-29-2022, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
I understand reserve at UPS is not quite the same as most pax airlines and doesn’t usually go junior.
How does UPS reserve work and if a junior pilot doesn’t get reserve, what should one expect?
How does UPS reserve work and if a junior pilot doesn’t get reserve, what should one expect?
Junior pilots could get Reserve, they could get a VTO (vacation/training/opentime, some airlines call these 'build-ups') or VTOR (vacation/training/opentime/reserve) line, or they could get a Base Trip Line (BTL). BTLs are lines with multiple shorter trips <110hr TAFB and have different day off pattern rules. BTLs are generally disliked by commuters, but shorter trips can be traded for longer trips.
03-29-2022, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
I understand reserve at UPS is not quite the same as most pax airlines and doesn’t usually go junior.
How does UPS reserve work and if a junior pilot doesn’t get reserve, what should one expect?
How does UPS reserve work and if a junior pilot doesn’t get reserve, what should one expect?
03-29-2022, 06:12 PM
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International Routes?
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Generally speaking:
A "heavy" class and a "light twin" class, one day apart. Heavies are 747 and MD11 with the occasional SDFZ 767 thrown in, light twins are 757 and A300. Specific drops change with each class, and classes bid for the drop vacancies by seniority (age).
747 vacancies going forward are all in ANC, MD11 is SDF, A300 is SDF, 757 in SDF, MIA and ONT.
ANC 747 is junior for heavies, ONT 757 is junior for light twins, A300 typically goes junior to SDF 757.
Recent heavy classes are a majority ANC 747, light twins tend to be a majority of SDF 757 with some ONT 757, SDF A300 and a sprinkling of SDFZ.
A "heavy" class and a "light twin" class, one day apart. Heavies are 747 and MD11 with the occasional SDFZ 767 thrown in, light twins are 757 and A300. Specific drops change with each class, and classes bid for the drop vacancies by seniority (age).
747 vacancies going forward are all in ANC, MD11 is SDF, A300 is SDF, 757 in SDF, MIA and ONT.
ANC 747 is junior for heavies, ONT 757 is junior for light twins, A300 typically goes junior to SDF 757.
Recent heavy classes are a majority ANC 747, light twins tend to be a majority of SDF 757 with some ONT 757, SDF A300 and a sprinkling of SDFZ.
What does SDFZ stand for? I’m assuming international flying?
And do any of the other bases (specifically KONT and KMIA) fly international, domestic, or a bit of both?
03-29-2022, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by surfandsnow
Dope, thanks for the insight!
What does SDFZ stand for? I’m assuming international flying?
And do any of the other bases (specifically KONT and KMIA) fly international, domestic, or a bit of both?
What does SDFZ stand for? I’m assuming international flying?
And do any of the other bases (specifically KONT and KMIA) fly international, domestic, or a bit of both?
KONT purely domestic (unless you count Canada and Mexico)
KMIA is South America and lots of domestic
03-30-2022, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
SDFZ is international (Asia and Europe)
KONT purely domestic (unless you count Canada and Mexico)
KMIA is South America and lots of domestic
KONT purely domestic (unless you count Canada and Mexico)
KMIA is South America and lots of domestic
03-30-2022, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by skek
SDFZ also has a lot of domestic if I’m not mistaken.
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