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tnkrdrvr 09-06-2022 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by BApilot78 (Post 3490206)
Yes I fully understand the UPS tpic requirement, I’m in no way belittling it. Long story regarding me, but a long time to command at Cathay, then seeing the writing on the wall after 10 years regarding Hong Kong led me to BA, an airline I always wanted to work for.

I totally get how Covid ruined Cathay. BA (I’m assuming that’s British Airways) is one of the grand old names in aviation, although they did lose my luggage for a week :mad:. If coming back to the states is your goal, UPS is a great landing spot, but probably not currently realistic for you. FedEx may have dropped their PIC required and all the pax guys have. If international long haul is what floats your boat FedEx is a great option. Otherwise, I’d enjoy working at the place you always wanted to be. UPS is a great job, but it’s just a job with brown pants and a hideous tie.

md11pilot11 09-08-2022 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3490211)
I totally get how Covid ruined Cathay. BA (I’m assuming that’s British Airways) is one of the grand old names in aviation, although they did lose my luggage for a week :mad:. If coming back to the states is your goal, UPS is a great landing spot, but probably not currently realistic for you. FedEx may have dropped their PIC required and all the pax guys have. If international long haul is what floats your boat FedEx is a great option. Otherwise, I’d enjoy working at the place you always wanted to be. UPS is a great job, but it’s just a job with brown pants and a hideous tie.


FedEx 500 TPIC required!


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Joachim 09-08-2022 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by BApilot78 (Post 3489969)
Didn’t realise my post would cause quite the fervour! I’m sure an F16 squadron leader/Topgun Maverick would be a good candidate at UPS, however, despite not having the command time; I’d like to think the BA and Cathay training would stand me in good stead also. Indeed, I hear through the grapevine that UPS are very happy with their Cathay applicants….
Just a quick one tnkrdrvr, all due respect but on the PRIA issue, no one ever accused Cathay, BA or even Ryanair of having low standards and no need to game any system!

I'd like to second that my comment wasn't aimed at you. Having experienced some of BA's training facilities myself I can confirm your sentiment. However, UPS is in the position of not needing to bother looking for additional parameters to widen their catchment area. Unfortunately, that means that certain quality applicants like yourself won't be teased out of the system until necessary. Check that pic box and you would be very competitive.

LearPilot88 09-09-2022 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3489486)
Guys probably feel it’s maddening because it forces you to choose between going to a legacy with no PIC or hanging out at a regional, ACMI, foreign carrier, etc until you have the 1,000PIC to apply at UPS. While I think it’s a great job, I would never advise someone to pass on a legacy in order to build the 1,000 PIC to be eligible to apply here. Even at our current hiring pace, your odds of getting called for an interview here are mediocre at best. This is a great landing spot for someone who has broad experience in aviation in left and right seats. It’s not necessarily a realistic landing spot for a young guy who is racing to get a great job before the music stops on this hiring wave.

Are you seeing ppl leaving legacy carriers for UPS? I know FedEx has a few in each class.

doublebed 09-09-2022 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by LearPilot88 (Post 3491906)
Are you seeing ppl leaving legacy carriers for UPS? I know FedEx has a few in each class.

Yes on average 6-7 per class. United, Alaska, and Delta were represented in the last class.

Riverside 09-09-2022 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by LearPilot88 (Post 3491906)
Are you seeing ppl leaving legacy carriers for UPS? I know FedEx has a few in each class.

yes, legacy pilots are coming here.

Joachim 09-10-2022 05:47 AM

I bet a few are leaving for the legacies as well.

FocusedFlying 09-10-2022 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Joachim (Post 3492574)
I bet a few are leaving for the legacies as well.

If you want to be an influencer, the legacies are definitely the place to be

Wheelsoff 09-10-2022 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Joachim (Post 3492574)
I bet a few are leaving for the legacies as well.

🤌 Por qué?

CardboardCutout 09-10-2022 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Wheelsoff (Post 3492716)
🤌 Por qué?

I would imagine the usual reasons. They live in base or want to, or they really like hats.


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