Originally Posted by Double80 (Post 3554493)

Thanks, this is what I was looking for.

Originally Posted by Hellafo (Post 3555050)

with the current hiring environment and contracts, we will miss out on some very qualified applicants…..

Originally Posted by freight77 (Post 3562791)

On that topic, anyone get an offer for class in Jan or Feb?

Originally Posted by Rsarono (Post 3563906)

I am having trouble finding the application website. Does anybody have the link?

Originally Posted by PlaneFlyer (Post 3562972)

There is a 10-Jan class. No classes beyond that so far.

Originally Posted by FTv3 (Post 3531204)

**Mods, please pin to top - thx***

Welcome to the 2023 Hiring thread!

Like last year, noting concrete to report unfortunately.


What we know:

Class slots have been offered out to March and possibly April so far.

31 Mandatory Retirements in 2023 (actual is always higher)

28 767’s arrive between 2023-26

Possible that 2 x 747 options are exercised.

Uncertainties:

MD phase out, no replacement (beyond current 76 increases).

MD replacement - A350

Corporate plans for 2023 - this is highlighted by recent system bid which only offered less than 30 Captain openings on 767. Highly speculated this bid will provide the vacancies for Dec/JAN new hire classes.

Once (and IF) a bigger system bid opens after peak, say early January’ish, we will have a better picture of

UPS’s 2023 hiring goals.

As Always, please keep posts here on point. If you want to argue, start a different thread. This thread is for people interested in getting hired at UPS and it’s a big help if they don’t have to scroll past hundreds of useless posts.

Thx all and good luck!

Originally Posted by Armyflyer66 (Post 3564802)

I'm new on here but how would I apply for this opportunity? I'm currently in the Army about to retire and want to get into the Cargo industry. Any help would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by C17B74 (Post 3565552)

“Possible that 2 x 747 options are exercised.”
Was this already done? Didn’t know how old the previous post was. Maybe tough for that option now. Not arguing, just curious.

Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3565558)

Well no more new 747s will be built..there was talk of someone selling 2 747s to UPS

Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3565570)

I believe they were factory freighters that a middle eastern carrier has parked.

Originally Posted by freight77 (Post 3562791)

On that topic, anyone get an offer for class in Jan or Feb?

Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3567809)

We'll get eight factory new 767s this year, and enter into service a 763BCF that the company acquired and parked last year prior to conversion this year.

Originally Posted by FTv3 (Post 3568030)

For 2023:



So net increase of 3 tails ~ 26 pilots

31 Mandatory retirements.

~ 57 required new hires, minimum. Early retirements and other attrition will raise that.

Originally Posted by MD11Simnerd (Post 3568260)

Looking at AM's Ops Reports, block hours are down. IMO we are "slightly" overstaffed. I think wait and see will be UPS's MO. If the March class is really three as reported in above post, that covers the last vacancy bid. The MD is overstaffed after the parking of 6 and small realignment bids/retirements will cover the growth on other fleets. Might not be the news people want to hear, but I have seen this movie before here.

Originally Posted by C2078 (Post 3568663)

We are most definitely not overstaffed, running around 12 pilots per plane, that is very lean. The 70 or so MD overstaffing issue will take care of most of the 76 deliveries this year (realignment). My crystal ball tells me maybe 50 total hires this year, and maybe 40-50 upgrades at best to cover small amount of retirements, unless we see larger number of early outs (we won’t see a new contract until 2026 at the earliest, don’t expect many to stick around that long). Next 2-3 years are gonna see very slow movement with similar numbers, maybe a tad more with 2024 and beyond with a bit more retirements.

Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3568931)

New bid out. All predictions appear to be incorrect. It’s a weird bid.

Originally Posted by flyguy23 (Post 3568943)

0 positions for new hires. So hiring has officially stopped for at least a little while. Any poolies need to take notice.

Originally Posted by FTv3 (Post 3568982)

For poolies et als., this was a realignment bid that presented 66 captain openings almost entirely in SDF and weighted to 767. In addition, it is displacing 66 FOs, mostly out of ANC 747 and some SDF MD. It was not a massive MD retirement bid - there are 12 MD captain slots being awarded… go figure.

So, you’re gunna see some fleet and domicile shuffling with the captains and the 66 FOs upgrading. Probably won’t see too many actual displacements.

Summer bid will likely have the remaining 50ish vacancy slots for new hires as discussed above.

Not great news but not bad either.

Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3568931)

New bid out. All predictions appear to be incorrect. It’s a weird bid.

Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3568998)

I think there are more dominoes yet to fall…….

Originally Posted by wychoi1022 (Post 3568856)

Is UPS hiring now? I was able to find all other airline’s pilot recruitment website except UPS.
Could you please give me a link to apply for UPS?

Thank you

Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3561838)

First week of January

Originally Posted by CharleyFox (Post 3569278)

Any updates on this? Certainly I didn't miss it!

Originally Posted by Double80 (Post 3569402)

Talked to a buddy there and he said even with this bid, there maybe few pilots still hired through the summer. Obviously no major hiring but a few. Bid has to go through and then we’d see. Is this a reasonable theory?

Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE (Post 3569773)

This bid is nothing more than creating more CPT positions without hiring off the street. The hiring boom we have see the past few years is pretty much over until at least Summer when they would have to run another bid.