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01-19-2026 | 06:30 PM

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FTv3

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Originally Posted by CardboardCutout

F/O…from Atlas, and he spent the majority of the time we were sitting up front together lamenting the fact that he'd made the switch.

I’ve flown with a lot of former Atlas bros and dudettes over the years here, a couple now good friends. Not 1 of them regrets coming here vs staying at atlas. There’s things that were better there (catering or they were 74 skippers) but total package, UPS hands down according to them. 🤷‍♂️

01-19-2026 | 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FTv3

Sure, he's an outlier, I agree. But he was pretty salty about it. TBF, I think he was a guy who was single and so had to worry about the $$$ side of things less, and therefore the QOL side more. YMMV, but I'm not making it up.

01-19-2026 | 08:15 PM

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No, I believe you. Just offering what I’ve experienced..

01-20-2026 | 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CardboardCutout

Ive run into this mentality a few times. If you regard your job as a paid adventure and not as a sacrifice to provide an income for your household, it makes sense. However, at some point you will want to focus on life away from work and then UPS or some other non-ACMI makes more sense.

01-20-2026 | 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr

This is very accurate. The Atlas lifestyle is often misunderstood. For many of us the money was “enough” while the QOL made it all worth it. There were several niches, e.g. ANC, MIA, Training Center, etc that offered a lot of advantages. The variety of flying to include VIP, sports teams, military to include passenger appeals to some as well.

A curious phenomena occurs in that I see ex Atlas (and admittedly there are thousands) still making FB posts highlighting their flying at Atlas. More then a few have stated that it was the best flying they ever did, but as mentioned do not regret the financial advantage of moving on.

01-20-2026 | 06:47 AM

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BoilerUP

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There's more than a few former regional and 91K folks that feel the same way about their former employer...

01-20-2026 | 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP

There's more than a few former regional and 91K folks that feel the same way about their former employer...

Coming here made me realize how truly well put together my previous employer was. It took a while for that to happen but I did not expect that - at all.

Last edited by Recliner; 01-20-2026 at 07:51 AM.

01-20-2026 | 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Recliner

I've been under the impression that if a pilot union comes out and says no more open time pickups during negotiations that is considered a job action. And that means the company is going to sue the union.

Did I miss something?

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us...t/1362939.html

01-20-2026 | 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us...t/1362939.html

So, what are your take aways from this case?

01-21-2026 | 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Recliner

You are correct, so the trick is to read the tea leaves and comprehend subtle signals, and common sense.
After we saw UPS’s reaction to the Accident, denying premiums, schedule disruptions etc etc etc, how can anybody think that it’s not time.