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01-21-2026 | 05:10 AM

#81

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by Recliner

So, what are your take aways from this case?

A refusal to fly overtime at historical levels even if not union sponsored or encouraged will be considered a violation of the RLA.

01-21-2026 | 05:46 AM

#82

JohnnyBekkestad

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

A refusal to fly overtime at historical levels even if not union sponsored or encouraged will be considered a violation of the RLA.

I don’t work for UPS, but I’ll be damned if the company tries to force me to work overtime. What I choose to do on my off days is my decision. I generally don’t do OT, mainly due to seniority and ability to make it in time to the trip. So I’ve grown fond of my off days…

01-21-2026 | 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

A refusal to fly overtime at historical levels even if not union sponsored or encouraged will be considered a violation of the RLA.

Understood.

Working my awarded trips is enough. I can't even fathom doing more.

01-21-2026 | 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad

Thanks for sharing, but nobody is trying to force anyone to do anything. That’s not how it works.

01-21-2026 | 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Vito

You are correct, so the trick is to read the tea leaves and comprehend subtle signals, and common sense.
After we saw UPS’s reaction to the Accident, denying premiums, schedule disruptions etc etc etc, how can anybody think that it’s not time.

Maybe it’s time for you, and I congratulate you on your personal decision. But it’s exactly that: a personal decision.

01-21-2026 | 09:54 AM

#86

JohnnyR

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingfun

A refusal to fly overtime at historical levels even if not union sponsored or encouraged will be considered a violation of the RLA.

UPS: The IPA is in violation of the RLA
IPA: Working our schedules now is like working our past schedules + open time. That’s why the pilot group isn’t picking anything up.

See how easy that is, and it works because it’s true.

01-21-2026 | 10:15 AM

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BoilerUP

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13.K.9, last sentence.

01-21-2026 | 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP

13.K.9, last sentence.

But couldn’t voicing personal opinion be misconstrued as discouraging other crewmembers from picking up said open time or JAs? Seems the last two sentences are contradictory.

01-21-2026 | 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CL300

But couldn’t voicing personal opinion be misconstrued as discouraging other crewmembers from picking up said open time or JAs? Seems the last two sentences are contradictory.

The final sentence protects a specific action from the bounds of the preceding sentence.