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Old 05-10-2026 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowslung
FDX flying a MD-11 (assumed FCF) today & rumor is revenue flights next week. The “emergency” is over. Time to get the contractors off our ramps.
Actually, today FedEx had two revenue MD flights, one MEM-LAX and the other went MEM-MIA. Ran into a UPS 747 guy in HNL a few days ago, he stated that UPS sold FedEx an undisclosed amount of MD's, no idea if for parts or actual air frames for rev flights.
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Old 05-11-2026 | 04:35 PM
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It has felt like I’ve worked for a bankrupt airline for the full 20 years I’ve been here
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Old Yesterday | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocket Bob
It has felt like I’ve worked for a bankrupt airline for the full 20 years I’ve been here
Well said. This is what the profit looks like that makes UPS think yeah we need to furlough 109 pilots (2010-2014) to make sure we don't lose too much profit. And of course after stealing sick time donations from active pilots to help prevent the furlough.

UPS Annual Net Income (Approximate GAAP Profit) Year|

Net Income2008| $3.0B
2009| $2.2B
2010| $3.5B
2011| $3.8B
2012| $0.8B (pension charge year)
2013| $4.4B
2014| $3.0B
2015| $4.8B
2016| $3.4B
2017| $4.9B
2018| $4.8B
2019| $4.4B
2020| $1.3B (COVID/pension/tax impacts)
2021| $12.9B
2022| $11.5B
2023| $6.7B
2024| $5.8B
2025| $5.6B ChatGPT made the table.
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Old Yesterday | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Recliner
Well said. This is what the profit looks like that makes UPS think yeah we need to furlough 109 pilots (2010-2014) to make sure we don't lose too much profit. And of course after stealing sick time donations from active pilots to help prevent the furlough.

UPS Annual Net Income (Approximate GAAP Profit) Year|

Net Income2008| $3.0B
2009| $2.2B
2010| $3.5B
2011| $3.8B
2012| $0.8B (pension charge year)
2013| $4.4B
2014| $3.0B
2015| $4.8B
2016| $3.4B
2017| $4.9B
2018| $4.8B
2019| $4.4B
2020| $1.3B (COVID/pension/tax impacts)
2021| $12.9B
2022| $11.5B
2023| $6.7B
2024| $5.8B
2025| $5.6B ChatGPT made the table.

The sky is definitely falling. Even CEO Davis 2.0 has managed to make money, despite herself. Clearly there’s no money left for a reasonable contract. 🙄
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Old Yesterday | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocket Bob
It has felt like I’ve worked for a bankrupt airline for the full 20 years I’ve been here
No, it’s just they absolutely hate the airline, but can’t survive without it. They put the least amount of resources in it and hope things turn out OK. Safety third here!
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