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Old 01-07-2015 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Commando
No Sh*t other Airlines are 2x or 4X larger. But 30 retirements a year times 4 is 120. Most Airlines are in the 300 to 600 range of retirements a year. If not more.

Hiring 25 or having a System wide Vacancy of 9 upgrades is a Joke. A Bad Joke. But it's reality here at UPS. 9? Seriously?

Or 65 New Hires over the course of 8 years. 2007 till mid 2015 we will have hired 65 pilots. Wow!
It's a shame the demographics, labor practices and fleet composition of UPS were such a closely held secret. Imagine how much more joyous so many lives could be today.

It's such an unfair world.
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Old 01-07-2015 | 04:24 PM
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While I appreciate all answers (no bitterness please), what would be the junior base for the next round of hiring?
Heard a lot rumors about a China base. I hope you like dumplings.
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Old 01-07-2015 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by UPSpilott
Heard a lot rumors about a China base. I hope you like dumplings.
You, my friend, are an idiot.
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Old 01-07-2015 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by UPSpilott
Heard a lot rumors about a China base. I hope you like dumplings.
That rumor is about, ohhhh ten years old!
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Old 01-08-2015 | 10:48 AM
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I once flew with an ex Pan Am pilot who'd been a junior flight engineer for 14 years. a lot of the guys at Delta were engineers for 7 years, imagine the stagnation! Yet they weren't 1/16 as bitter as the guys on here..weird.
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Old 01-08-2015 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocket Bob
I once flew with an ex Pan Am pilot who'd been a junior flight engineer for 14 years. a lot of the guys at Delta were engineers for 7 years, imagine the stagnation! Yet they weren't 1/16 as bitter as the guys on here..weird.
Apples to oranges dude...industry wide stagnation is different to one we're in as there are growth all around and our employer decided to take the opposite route.....outsourcing..hiring direct entry captains..shrinking the union force...etc etc.
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Old 01-08-2015 | 12:06 PM
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Apples to oranges dude...industry wide stagnation is different to one we're in as there are growth all around and our employer decided to take the opposite route.....outsourcing..hiring direct entry captains..shrinking the union force...etc etc.
Much of the hiring that is going on now really is not covering for any growth at any of the airlines. Pilot attrition is what is driving this new wave of hiring. Most, if not all of the airlines with a/c on order are not in any type of growth mode. The new a/c airlines are receiving now, are mostly a 1 for 1 swap. New a/c shows up.....replaces old a/c shipped of to boneyard.
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Old 01-08-2015 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mrvmo
Much of the hiring that is going on now really is not covering for any growth at any of the airlines. Pilot attrition is what is driving this new wave of hiring. Most, if not all of the airlines with a/c on order are not in any type of growth mode. The new a/c airlines are receiving now, are mostly a 1 for 1 swap. New a/c shows up.....replaces old a/c shipped of to boneyard.
I think you are out of touch with reality. Why did Delta hire over 960 last year, and why do they have plans to hire 1200+ this year? Delta's 2014 and 2015 retirement numbers total up to only 290 pilots. No there's no growth going on there. None at all.
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Old 01-08-2015 | 04:23 PM
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Next new hire class is rumored to be 2/4.
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Old 01-08-2015 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
Next new hire class is rumored to be 2/4.
Rumor is it will contain 4 scabs
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