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Old 01-09-2016 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DangaZone
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Titanic deck chair rearrangement bids get published, removing positions from certain fleets/seats and adding positions to other fleets/seats. They identify the junior pilots in each position who will be subject to a Displacement bid if there aren't enough voluntary moves senior to them during the Realignment bid.

I think some guys on property have 3 Initials in a single 12 month period due to the failure of Crew Planning to project manning needs more than the next bid ahead (or behind).

At least "training is free"...
Okay, that sounds seniority based. The way it was phrased, it sounded like "special qualifications" could keep you from being displaced, and being new on an airplane could get you displaced.

We have plenty of people who have newly upgraded, yet go right to the middle of the seniority list on the airplane, because they stayed senior in their seat position. Whether you get displaced or not is 100% of where you are in seniority in your seat, nothing else, and it sounds the same as your system.

That's a lot of training. You'd think they would lock people into a seat position for awhile to avoid that. Training costs money.
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Old 01-09-2016 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DangaZone
The company did the same nonsense with realignment bids in Dec '14 and again in April '15, both times putting newhires, recently upgraded Captains, junior ANC pilots in all seats on the displacement block.

There were announcements of newhire classes after each realignment, so hopefully that trend continues...especially given that the company has been interviewing over peak and now into 2016.

"Just another great UPS day"
Not sure if this is quite accurate. Didn't the April 15 bid actually have excess vacancies? This is just a pure seat swap.
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Old 01-09-2016 | 02:36 PM
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The 15-103 Realignment was actually released a couple days before the 15-102 Vacancy closed.
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Old 01-09-2016 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DangaZone
The company did the same nonsense with realignment bids in Dec '14 and again in April '15, both times putting newhires, recently upgraded Captains, junior ANC pilots in all seats on the displacement block.

There were announcements of newhire classes after each realignment, so hopefully that trend continues...especially given that the company has been interviewing over peak and now into 2016.

"Just another great UPS day"
The current bid does not have any original vacancies, therefore it won't support hiring if UPS follows the contract. New vacancies need to be put out for bid and new hires placed in unfilled seats.

I look forward to my next long term training event on the A-300 this spring....... sheesh
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Old 01-11-2016 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxKts
I think his "special qual" is called NURP!
Or the very special sim instructor in ANC
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Old 01-11-2016 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxKts
I think his "special qual" is called NURP!
Or the very special sim instructor in ANC
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