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Smash312 06-12-2009 06:16 AM

How long does something stay on your PRIA?
 
How long does something stay on your PRIA report?

JetJock16 06-12-2009 06:31 AM

I believe its 10 years (not sure) but airlines normally only go back 5. With everything that's going on in our industry today I'd expect them to start looking back as far as they can.

Diver Driver 06-12-2009 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by Smash312 (Post 627212)
How long does something stay on your PRIA report?

I believe an event stays forever, however, the airline can only request the past 5 years unless the event is a revocation or suspension of an airman cert. or driver's license, then it is indefinite.

That is how I read it: http://ntl.bts.gov/lib/1000/1000/1055/AC120-68C.pdf

Smash312 06-12-2009 06:38 AM

Does 'Focus Training' on your PRIA mean you won't get a job easily?

If asked about any 'accidents, incidents or violations' on an application form do I have to state if the company sent me for 'focus training'?

JetJock16 06-12-2009 06:42 AM

“5-YEAR REPORTING PERIOD. A person shall not furnish a record in
response to a request made under paragraph (1) if the record was entered more
than 5 years before the date of the request, unless the information concerns a
revocation or suspension of an airman certificate or motor vehicle license that is in
effect on the date of the request.


REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN RECORDS. The Administrator and air carriers
shall maintain pilot records described in paragraphs (1)(A and (1)(B) for a period of
at least 5 years.”

UnlimitedAkro 06-12-2009 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by Smash312 (Post 627230)
Does 'Focus Training' on your PRIA mean you won't get a job easily?

If asked about any 'accidents, incidents or violations' on an application form do I have to state if the company sent me for 'focus training'?

Well were you sent to focus training because of an accident, incident, or violation?

GrummanCT 06-12-2009 06:58 AM

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Smash312 06-12-2009 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by UnlimitedAkro (Post 627236)
Well were you sent to focus training because of an accident, incident, or violation?

On the Focus Training form (which will be put on ones PRIA) said "CRM Training"

None of this was FAA involved.

Bucking Bar 06-12-2009 07:48 AM

I don't think anyone knows what that even means. I'd not disclose unless the form asked specifically for that info.

rickair7777 06-12-2009 08:54 AM

There is no such thing as a "PRIA Record" (although we might see that soon thanks to colgan).

PRIA is a law which requires some air carriers to keep records, and to furnish them to another employer who is considering you for a pilot job.

An air carrier must obtain your past records when considering you for employment. This will include past aviation employers and your FAA records (plus DOT and NDR). FAA violations will show up, but I do not believe that pink slips will appear although there may be other means of obtaining them (FOIA).

A non-air carrier (part 91) does not have to keep records...but if they do, they must furnish them if asked. Obviously some 91 operators do keep records.

About the five year limit...the PRIA law does not allow you to request or furnish records older than five years. The PRI law prevents past employers from getting sued for providing PRIA records...but if they furnish records older than five years which are NOT required by PRIA, I suspect they could open themselves up to a lawsuit. For that reason I think larger companies would probably not provide more than five years of data. A small company might not have legal staff to provide guidance on this, so a clerk might just photocopy your entire record and mail it (I have seen this at two companies). But if you are talking airlines, it should only go back 5 years.

FAA records will also be reported going back five years...except revocations which are reported forever.

Not sure how far back DOT and NDR records go.

As far as WHAT gets reported...basically any and all training and discipline events related to being a pilot. In the past, non-aviation disciplinary actions were not reported (ie punching your CP in the mouth), but I think that might have changed.


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