cl601pilot

There was no thread hijack there. You hit it pretty spot on. Most airline guys seem to have some or all of those qualities. They just don't adapt very well to the corporate side of the industry.

I have a couple of friends on the airline side of the fence. They think that I am nuts to fly corporate when they hear about the list of jobs, duties, no set schedule, no duty time limitations, ass kissing, acting like you give a **** about some rich guys problems, dealing with the rich guys nutty wife, dealing with the rich guys mistress, 18 hour flight days, 28 hour duty days, etc.

I do see the appeal of going 121 from time to time.

However, back to the thread. I do find it funny that when the airline industry is in trouble, we usually get all sorts of resumes and walk ins from 121 guys looking to jump ship and go 91. Their resumes will normally be thrown away as soon as we receive them.

The really great walk ins though are the 121 just retired captains that are out looking for retirement work. They are usually quite full of themselves. When they leave you really have to ask yourself how we have been getting along without captain sterling for all these years. Then you just laugh and think well our lowly little airplane doesn't have enough room for his oversized ego anyways.

About 5% of them seem to be a guy that you could work with and could handle all the crap that has to be dealt with a 91 job.

MU2P

Here you go.

http://www.jsfirm.com/companydetail.asp?jobid=19966

Floyd94

I would think you are nuts as well. My corporate job entails none of which you listed. If I were you, I'd go to the 121 side. Best of luck.

ovrtake92

As former airline I agree that It is a different mindset to switch between the two. I also agree that it is just the personality of the individual that garners success. A good corporate department will value the standardization and discipline that an airline pilot brings to the table as well. However It is a lot more work to get an airplane from point A to point B so no more foot up on the pedestal while your baggage is loaded and a nonchalant fick of the wrist to hand paperwork to the agents. And if something goes wrong you dont get to shrug your shoulders and say "go talk to the gate agents". But the coffee and food is better and FL430 is a lot less crowded to ; )

7700

Why don't you just go to Southwest and be a Captain there? With all that experience you should be able to bypass time in industry and seniority wherever you go. I know that to have that much experience at US Air you have more than paid your dues in the airlines but we are not just holding your space in line on the corporate side of things. Why don't you widen your search up to and including King Air First Officer and not insult people that have been shoehorning large aircraft into unheard of airports since your first ride in a 737. Netjets doesn't hire directly into the 737 because that's not where you start in corporate. This is just as ridiculous as the threads with 2000 total and 1600 RJ wondering if there is a differences class for the 604. There is a differences class and it is called Part 135 charter. I'm not saying anyone can't fly corporate but I am saying that it has a respectful learning curve. Go to US Air tommorrow and plan your own 1 week 15 stop round the world trip including Airstairs, Baggage Handleing, Fuel Contracting, Catering, Security, maintennance,ect., ect, ect. because it will be required and don't rely on the handlers too much or you will quickly be looking for your second BBJ corporate gig. Until the airlines allow us to count 91 experience to bypass seniority don't expect reciprocating. Just imagine the response I would get in the Majors board if I posted the reverse of this thread.

My company just hired a 20 year Airline guy as a Citation Excel F.O.(Look it up, it's small!) and it's going fair to O.K. but it's got a long way to go.

Good luck and sorry about the merger.

Danzig

I just saw a post by an employer on Avianation looking for a BBJ pilot in Florida. FWIW.

*It was posted on April 13th, so it is currently near the top.

NJA Capt

You guys realize that Eric revived a thread that had been dead for 2 years, right? I'm pretty sure he found a job by now.

navigatro

I heard he got hired by NetJets, and is a BJJ Captain.

EricMercury

LOL, yeah, well I sure tried to be a BBJ guy too! Sorry for resurrecting the dead fellas, I will admit I didn't look at the date of the thread when I responded to it. I was flipping through websites trying to find more information on BBJ jobs as well. I am currently flying a Falcon 2000 on the west coast and there was a question whether the boss was going to park it for awhile. I think that issue has been resolved and I am happy to announce I'm going to have a job at least for a little while longer.

I agree with most posters in here, when it comes to corporate flying, attitude is what makes all the difference. Be it fair or unfair, it sure seems like a disproportionate number of 121 guys sneaking around our hangar on their day off lately, carry an attitude of superiority and entitlement that would make Clay Lacy blush.

We have hired a few of those guys in the past few years, but it didn't take long for them to rub the boss the wrong way and they were out. Our "union" consists of just one guy. He pays very well. Will support us in every way and leaves the flying to us. I have never felt I have to kiss his butt or serve up fake platitudes. Respect flows both ways. But if you start treating him like the way a typical airline pilot treats a passenger with the airlines, your days are numbered in this business. Airline guys haven't figured that out yet, or forgot it the second month after they started flying the line on their 100,000+ lb airplane.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

zondaracer

http://www.jetonejets.com/

I saw these guys have BBJs but didn't see anything on the website about hiring, I don't even know if these guys even own the planes. I do know that this is the company that Hugh Hefner uses for his travel, saw it on that show Girls Next Door.