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08-31-2017 | 02:04 PM
#33
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What does that have to do with work rules and QOL? From the outside looking in, SAP outweighs the perception of a slight less mature pilot group since it directly affects pay and QOL.
08-31-2017 | 02:34 PM
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I went and did get hired. Surprisingly the interview was a little more challenging than the other places. Didn't expect to get Stars / SIDS. Really nice guys who did the interview and the process was good. Reading through the posts I still have mixed feelings though, thank you everyone for the input.
The thing that attracts me the most is that the reserve times here seem to be low, and ORD is a super easy commute for me. At my other regional , il get put in New York and Chicago is super senior. The bonus is a nice addition too. But I'm still concerned for the future regarding upgrades. If I have to wait 3 years to upgrade that is fine but 5 years is a little excessive.
Some more questions.
- How are company hotels? Decent?
- I didn't get to see the training center which kind of was disappointing , so I have no clue about the facility , everything decent there?
- Are we paid durin CPT? What's training pay? Reserve gaurentee with per diem 24/7?
Thanks
The thing that attracts me the most is that the reserve times here seem to be low, and ORD is a super easy commute for me. At my other regional , il get put in New York and Chicago is super senior. The bonus is a nice addition too. But I'm still concerned for the future regarding upgrades. If I have to wait 3 years to upgrade that is fine but 5 years is a little excessive.
Some more questions.
- How are company hotels? Decent?
- I didn't get to see the training center which kind of was disappointing , so I have no clue about the facility , everything decent there?
- Are we paid durin CPT? What's training pay? Reserve gaurentee with per diem 24/7?
Thanks
New FOs are sitting reserve for 2-3 months.
08-31-2017 | 02:48 PM
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The CPP isn't a flow but it should generate movement. That's all it's good for until you have been here at least 3 years when it *might* help with a UAL job. But it gets the list moving a bit faster and gives the senior guys/gals a reason to leave and that benefits everyone. Again I'm not familiar with those other flow programs but approach them all with a healthy dose of skepticism.
08-31-2017 | 06:25 PM
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08-31-2017 | 07:45 PM
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Other regionals might have similar rules but I would specifically ask about things like cancellation pay/block or better, trip and duty rigs, health insurance costs and benefits, retirement matching, and things like that. There's a lot that goes into pay besides dollars per hour and AW really shines on that front.
The CPP isn't a flow but it should generate movement. That's all it's good for until you have been here at least 3 years when it *might* help with a UAL job. But it gets the list moving a bit faster and gives the senior guys/gals a reason to leave and that benefits everyone. Again I'm not familiar with those other flow programs but approach them all with a healthy dose of skepticism.
The CPP isn't a flow but it should generate movement. That's all it's good for until you have been here at least 3 years when it *might* help with a UAL job. But it gets the list moving a bit faster and gives the senior guys/gals a reason to leave and that benefits everyone. Again I'm not familiar with those other flow programs but approach them all with a healthy dose of skepticism.
08-31-2017 | 07:48 PM
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Not sure, but SAP is supposed to be the bees knees and I've yet to hear/meet a PSA guy say literally anything bad about it. That said, obviously I'm keeping options open and considering all points. So for AW I was wondering if there was anything that outweighs the value of the SAP/flow combo. Another poster above brought up some points I'll look into. Thanks guys, blue skies.
09-01-2017 | 05:12 PM
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You are going to have to enlighten this old guy what SAP is.
If you want details I will try to give you a few.
Pay- block or better on a leg by leg basis. Full DH pay. Full cancellation pay. You basically can't lose pay from your final award unless you cause the issue. 2:1 Duty rig. 3.5:1 Trip rig. 3 hour minimum day. 75 hours/month guarantee.
Per diem is $2.65 I think.
Health Insurance is a Cadillac plan of which we pay 25%.
Retirement. 3% 401k donation regardless of pilot participation. (After 1 year I think). They also match roughly half up to 5%. You put in 9, they put in 5. 100% vested at 6 years.
$260 per year uniform allowance. Starts paying out after first full calendar year.
Vacation 1 week after your first year. 2 weeks from 2-5 years. Then 3 weeks topping out at 5 weeks. Trip touching on primary weeks, 1st, 4th, and 5th.
12 days off minimum per month.
If you want details I will try to give you a few.
Pay- block or better on a leg by leg basis. Full DH pay. Full cancellation pay. You basically can't lose pay from your final award unless you cause the issue. 2:1 Duty rig. 3.5:1 Trip rig. 3 hour minimum day. 75 hours/month guarantee.
Per diem is $2.65 I think.
Health Insurance is a Cadillac plan of which we pay 25%.
Retirement. 3% 401k donation regardless of pilot participation. (After 1 year I think). They also match roughly half up to 5%. You put in 9, they put in 5. 100% vested at 6 years.
$260 per year uniform allowance. Starts paying out after first full calendar year.
Vacation 1 week after your first year. 2 weeks from 2-5 years. Then 3 weeks topping out at 5 weeks. Trip touching on primary weeks, 1st, 4th, and 5th.
12 days off minimum per month.
09-01-2017 | 05:52 PM
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You are going to have to enlighten this old guy what SAP is.
If you want details I will try to give you a few.
Pay- block or better on a leg by leg basis. Full DH pay. Full cancellation pay. You basically can't lose pay from your final award unless you cause the issue. 2:1 Duty rig. 3.5:1 Trip rig. 3 hour minimum day. 75 hours/month guarantee.
Per diem is $2.65 I think.
Health Insurance is a Cadillac plan of which we pay 25%.
Retirement. 3% 401k donation regardless of pilot participation. (After 1 year I think). They also match roughly half up to 5%. You put in 9, they put in 5. 100% vested at 6 years.
$260 per year uniform allowance. Starts paying out after first full calendar year.
Vacation 1 week after your first year. 2 weeks from 2-5 years. Then 3 weeks topping out at 5 weeks. Trip touching on primary weeks, 1st, 4th, and 5th.
12 days off minimum per month.
If you want details I will try to give you a few.
Pay- block or better on a leg by leg basis. Full DH pay. Full cancellation pay. You basically can't lose pay from your final award unless you cause the issue. 2:1 Duty rig. 3.5:1 Trip rig. 3 hour minimum day. 75 hours/month guarantee.
Per diem is $2.65 I think.
Health Insurance is a Cadillac plan of which we pay 25%.
Retirement. 3% 401k donation regardless of pilot participation. (After 1 year I think). They also match roughly half up to 5%. You put in 9, they put in 5. 100% vested at 6 years.
$260 per year uniform allowance. Starts paying out after first full calendar year.
Vacation 1 week after your first year. 2 weeks from 2-5 years. Then 3 weeks topping out at 5 weeks. Trip touching on primary weeks, 1st, 4th, and 5th.
12 days off minimum per month.
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