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09-28-2017, 04:10 PM

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StrykerB21

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I ask because of the huge disparity between the number of people that start the checkride and the number of people who pass the checkride. Numbers in Appleton are good now but the more important number we should be focused on is how many are successful. 20 or 30 in Appleton doesnt mean much unless they do well in training and come out successful.

09-28-2017, 04:20 PM

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pitchtrim

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Guess we'll see. I'll compare on the next resignation list.

09-28-2017, 10:29 PM

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ChrisPilot1

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Originally Posted by whooooooocares

Sorry, my point was opposed to collective greed of a group.

So you are saying all the new hires are greedy? I didn't choose the company for the money only, sure it's a great pull. But from the guys I've spoken to on here and other pilots on the line, about 80% are saying it's a pretty great deal

09-29-2017, 03:19 AM

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pitchtrim

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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus

Thank you! People like pitchtrim will try to sell obvious recruiter bullsh-t lies to people just because it helps him gain seniority. Why not just tell people the truth and let them decide for themselves? Pilots lying to pilots to help recruiters is some pretty foul stuff. But sure, tell us more about those 18 month upgrades pitchtrim

Awac on fb posted a picture of the latest class. They have 24. Looks optimistic for someone such as yourself that needs seniority and a quick upgrade.

09-29-2017, 04:27 AM

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PotatoChip

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LOL to Pitchtrim being a recruiter-type to gain seniority!
Clueless.

09-29-2017, 05:10 AM

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pitchtrim

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Originally Posted by PotatoChip

LOL to Pitchtrim being a recruiter-type to gain seniority!
Clueless.

I'm selling lies for my own personal greed! Lol.

Probably more like I read the announcements/emails with actual numbers, talk to people doing the hiring/recruiting, and then confirm some rumors and the latest quality of applicant when they finally end up stuck with me on a trip.

09-29-2017, 05:43 AM

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StrykerB21

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Originally Posted by pitchtrim

Youre counting people going through the front end of the training program. You need to count the ones coming out the back and hitting the line.

09-29-2017, 05:59 AM

#38

pitchtrim

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Some are on the back end. At least 22. Maybe the full 40+. You do realize we aren't washing out half of the new hires right?

09-29-2017, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by StrykerB21

Youre counting people going through the front end of the training program. You need to count the ones coming out the back and hitting the line.

Currently we are seeing 90% of new hires pass through IOE.

09-29-2017, 02:14 PM

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lava

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Originally Posted by diverdriver2

Currently we are seeing 90% of new hires pass through IOE.

Okay. Brown flag thrown from the backjudge. This approaches Mark Twain's understanding of statistics.

Please qualify this statement with sample size, and time to complete, etc. Pass rate for new hires who started 1st quarter 17 is well below 50%.

While the incoming numbers are bigger, there's yet to be a huge influx of unrecognizable in the crew rooms.