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Old 05-16-2018, 08:21 AM
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Ignorant arrogance.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:35 AM
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So when this is voted down and our negotiators are fired how long should we expect the next TA? A decade?
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:14 AM
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This is pretty insane.

Ask your management how many staffing problems Endeavor is having. Something about paying people what they are worth (and not just new hires) seems to resonate pretty well with employees.

The line is out the door and backed up for ~ 7 months over there.
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by StrykerB21 View Post
So when this is voted down and our negotiators are fired how long should we expect the next TA? A decade?
I would think it would actually have to be fairly quick, as the company needs this more than the pilot group does, what with the implosion from lack of staffing occurring daily.

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Old 05-16-2018, 10:07 AM
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Anything to address the endless Jr man calls and extensions and poor Qol we currently have?
We have kept this Co afloat with our sacrifice and hardwork and this is how we are shown appreciation??
Management has failed to come forward and let us know what the plan is going forward. We are loosing more than we can hire and get through training,yet they don’t see a problem.
Say no to extensions and Jr mans,go home on your scheduled off days and spend time with family and friends and take care of your personal business,don’t put it off for them. At the end of the day it’s managements responsibility to make sure we are properly staffed and flights get covered,not mine.Im tired of scheduling telling me if you don’t accept this extension or Jr man then these flights will cancel.From now on cancel the
MF then , I don’t care anymore.
I’m tired of mgmt sitting there quietly as we are working like dogs to keep this operation going. Eff em



There are individuals receiving actual UNV's for refusing jrman's. What to do about that???
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:12 AM
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u dont wanna go there.
Why is that?
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:21 AM
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TA will pass, same reason the “industry standard” Spirit TA passed. My guess 90% of AWAC pilots don’t plan on staying at AWAC for their entire career. So why not making little more cash while waiting for the phone to ring? If the TA is voted down how many more years before another TA? Another few years for what? $15 more per hour. It’s unfortunate.
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:38 AM
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There are individuals receiving actual UNV's for refusing jrman's. What to do about that???
Of course, the simple fix is to get drunk any time you aren't scheduled for duty. Beerios for breakfast, anyone?
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Originally Posted by StrykerB21 View Post
So when this is voted down and our negotiators are fired how long should we expect the next TA? A decade?
Decade??? They won’t be around then. Management might be setting this up for a merger and running off with millions before doors shut. This seems like a packaging deal to me.
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Originally Posted by Flying101 View Post
TA will pass, same reason the “industry standard” Spirit TA passed. My guess 90% of AWAC pilots don’t plan on staying at AWAC for their entire career. So why not making little more cash while waiting for the phone to ring? If the TA is voted down how many more years before another TA? Another few years for what? $15 more per hour. It’s unfortunate.

So ALPA at United is not having talks with ALPA AWAC to get you guys seniority numbers at United? (a flow). How about Commutair flow or seniority at United?

A flow will help, new equipment will help, more base options will help.

Does the company (United & AWAC) think you guys/gals are already to expensive for United or do they really want to squeeze as much pennies out of you as possible? Something to consider.
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