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Old 11-15-2018, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CanWeGetTheLeft View Post
He’s on ALPA leave for national work. It’s legitimate.
We have been told by our local union there is no such thing as “alpa national” but now there is. He’s running for a position in “alpa national” not “doing work.” Just like the lack of local work. He’s got my vote!
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CanWeGetTheLeft View Post
He’s on ALPA leave for national work. It’s legitimate

A better question would be “why don’t we have a negotiating committee yet and why do we keep getting emails reminding us that we’re looking for a membership committee chairman when THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE IS STILL EMPTY.”
How many idiots screamed and yelled about voting no because the company would have to come immediately right back with a much much better offer??
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:51 AM
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How many idiots screamed and yelled about voting no because the company would have to come immediately right back with a much much better offer??
Yep. Time is on their side. The company is in no hurry. Happy to keep paying your simple 1.5% raise every October. A recession is coming. Might be next week or 2 years, but when it happens if there isn't a contract in place you can guess what the company is going to say. "Gee, ummm sorry. Times are tough now. No bonus, no raises, and you need to pay more for your benefits. That's our new offer. Too bad you didn't approve the contract ..."
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Cessnaflyer1213 View Post
Yep. Time is on their side. The company is in no hurry. Happy to keep paying your simple 1.5% raise every October. A recession is coming. Might be next week or 2 years, but when it happens if there isn't a contract in place you can guess what the company is going to say. "Gee, ummm sorry. Times are tough now. No bonus, no raises, and you need to pay more for your benefits. That's our new offer. Too bad you didn't approve the contract ..."
Implying they wouldn’t have come screaming back the second the economy turns about needing concessions anyway?

Plus it’s a little hard to vote yes on a TA that had even a few concessions in it given the state the industry is in right now.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Day4mx View Post
How many idiots screamed and yelled about voting no because the company would have to come immediately right back with a much much better offer??
What are morons thinking was a gain in the last TA? NOTHING. More vague language. It was garbage. Hence the two week sales pitch. The only reason it came as close as it did was because half the pilot group is junior and believe anything they are they told.
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Old 11-16-2018, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cessnaflyer1213 View Post
Yep. Time is on their side. The company is in no hurry. Happy to keep paying your simple 1.5% raise every October. A recession is coming. Might be next week or 2 years, but when it happens if there isn't a contract in place you can guess what the company is going to say. "Gee, ummm sorry. Times are tough now. No bonus, no raises, and you need to pay more for your benefits. That's our new offer. Too bad you didn't approve the contract ..."
That’s when we still vote no and continue under current book. Just like we would if we had voted in the last TA and then reopened negotiations in a year and half as the union claimed was the quickest way back to the table. We would still operate under than contract which still had the same simple 1.5% raise. The new hire bonuses can disappear at anytime. The latter part of your statement is moot point.
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Old 11-25-2018, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CanWeGetTheLeft View Post
He’s on ALPA leave for national work. It’s legitimate

A better question would be “why don’t we have a negotiating committee yet and why do we keep getting emails reminding us that we’re looking for a membership committee chairman when THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE IS STILL EMPTY.”
Why don’t we just hire real negotiators?
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