2018 new TA
05-19-2018, 04:24 PM
#152
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Originally Posted by pitchtrim
If you work here then you should know they aren't properly staffed.
My point is we don’t control their staffing. We can’t. Staffing is their problem. They have the ability to throw additional money towards new hires in terms of rates and they aren’t even though they are under water. The same goes for negotiations. Until they want to throw a bunch of money at it, it is what it is.
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05-19-2018, 06:46 PM
#153
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Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407
AWAC management has the ability to raise first year pay RIGHT NOW, TODAY to $40/hr per LOA 37. The restriction is they cannot go backwards once they raise it. Guess they aren’t hurting that bad.
05-20-2018, 01:56 AM
#154
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Originally Posted by tonsterboy5
What am I missing that has everyone a “no” vote? This TA along with our current contract have us getting paid more than just about every other regional with mostly better rules if you can live in base.(commuting with JM, and extensions sucks) We make more than the AA wholly owneds, Skywest, tsa, go jet, express jet, silver, seaborn, Penn air, commut air, and Mesa.
Yes we all want more $$ but with the exception of endeavor no one makes more than us flying 50 seaters (not including our new hire bonus) in the lower 48. I simply want my time and to be gone. Yea bonus’ suck compared to higher wage, but if anything they incentivize getting time and getting out after 3 years if possible. Which is very likely with all the retirements approaching.
Yes we all want more $$ but with the exception of endeavor no one makes more than us flying 50 seaters (not including our new hire bonus) in the lower 48. I simply want my time and to be gone. Yea bonus’ suck compared to higher wage, but if anything they incentivize getting time and getting out after 3 years if possible. Which is very likely with all the retirements approaching.
The company can either drastically improve our QOL or give us Endevour rates otherwise it’s a no from me.
05-21-2018, 03:56 PM
#156
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Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407
It will restart negotiations. All sections are back open for bargaining. With that being said, with a second failed TA, you will probably be replacing your leadership and negotiating committee, plus all the mec that either get recalled or resign. So with all the work that goes into that and getting brought up to speed plus looking at how long it took from TA 2015, I can’t imagine we will be back at the table anytime soon.
05-23-2018, 10:00 PM
#159
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Future of Air Wisky? Only 50 seaters?
Is this TA a sign that ownership plans to cash in - one way or another - within 2 years? (i.e., trying to keep everyone just happy enough for smoke to keep coming off the tires for one more day for as long as they can?)
Is the removal of pay rates for equipment with capacity of more than 50 pax noteworthy? Seems to contribute to the cash-in theory on one hand (doesn't AW almost HAVE to upgrade soon to remain viable??), but - on the other hand - if this agreement is written with just a 24 month term length in mind then I may reading into this unnecessarily.
Is the removal of pay rates for equipment with capacity of more than 50 pax noteworthy? Seems to contribute to the cash-in theory on one hand (doesn't AW almost HAVE to upgrade soon to remain viable??), but - on the other hand - if this agreement is written with just a 24 month term length in mind then I may reading into this unnecessarily.
05-24-2018, 03:49 AM
#160
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Originally Posted by fenix1
Is this TA a sign that ownership plans to cash in - one way or another - within 2 years? (i.e., trying to keep everyone just happy enough for smoke to keep coming off the tires for one more day for as long as they can?)
Is the removal of pay rates for equipment with capacity of more than 50 pax noteworthy? Seems to contribute to the cash-in theory on one hand (doesn't AW almost HAVE to upgrade soon to remain viable??), but - on the other hand - if this agreement is written with just a 24 month term length in mind then I may reading into this unnecessarily.
Is the removal of pay rates for equipment with capacity of more than 50 pax noteworthy? Seems to contribute to the cash-in theory on one hand (doesn't AW almost HAVE to upgrade soon to remain viable??), but - on the other hand - if this agreement is written with just a 24 month term length in mind then I may reading into this unnecessarily.
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