2018 new TA
05-27-2018, 07:57 AM
#171
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Originally Posted by StrykerB21
Since flight crews are really where the rubber meets the road operationally, the only thing operational excellence can attempt to do is motivate us to work harder. Reading the announcement thats essentially what theyre trying to do.
Pilots in general are helpful dedicated people, and this is an appeal to that nature. Its a psychological ploy to convince us to pick up open time or accept that junior man. Im flying my line and thats it. Not gonna play ball with them until they play ball with us.
Pilots in general are helpful dedicated people, and this is an appeal to that nature. Its a psychological ploy to convince us to pick up open time or accept that junior man. Im flying my line and thats it. Not gonna play ball with them until they play ball with us.
05-27-2018, 12:31 PM
#172
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Originally Posted by stroopwaffle
I skimmed it through, looking forward to cliff notes on what has changed for the better or worse. It looks like the same 2003 contract with small longevity bonuses.
Frustrated and disappointed.
Frustrated and disappointed.
05-27-2018, 12:38 PM
#173
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Originally Posted by WICheeseHead
So what does Air Wisconsin have at this point to attract any new hires?
I guess good insurance, which typically isn't that big of an issue for new hires since they don't have families, illnesses (younger age), etc. Hate to say it, but they just fell off a lot of people's lists. I think GoJet, Mesa, etc are all better options for just about anyone.
I guess good insurance, which typically isn't that big of an issue for new hires since they don't have families, illnesses (younger age), etc. Hate to say it, but they just fell off a lot of people's lists. I think GoJet, Mesa, etc are all better options for just about anyone.
05-27-2018, 12:58 PM
#174
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Originally Posted by Flying101
TA will pass, same reason the “industry standard” Spirit TA passed. My guess 90% of AWAC pilots don’t plan on staying at AWAC for their entire career. So why not making little more cash while waiting for the phone to ring? If the TA is voted down how many more years before another TA? Another few years for what? $15 more per hour. It’s unfortunate.
Vote it down and money will come.
05-27-2018, 01:11 PM
#175
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Originally Posted by Greensideup
“Just work 1 percent harder in 2 years”
05-27-2018, 05:21 PM
#176
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Originally Posted by Greensideup
We voted down our TA in 2015 and in 2016 we were offered retention bonuses , FOs received 20k. What did captains get? 7,500?
Vote it down and money will come.
Vote it down and money will come.
If this TA gets voted down, any new pay raises or bonuses NEED to be done via a new contract and not a LOA.
05-28-2018, 01:51 AM
#177
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Originally Posted by Day4mx
Precisely. And when we start 2 hours late and play catch up all day with 24 minute turns...acars msg for a meal break. That acars works both way.
05-28-2018, 03:19 AM
#178
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Originally Posted by Greensideup
I heard of a guy getting chewed out by a asst. chief pilot for utilizing the meal break during a duty day over 12 hours. Can you believe that??
05-28-2018, 03:25 AM
#179
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Originally Posted by Greensideup
I heard of a guy getting chewed out by a asst. chief pilot for utilizing the meal break during a duty day over 12 hours. Can you believe that??
05-28-2018, 04:04 AM
#180
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I can only believe it if the crew didn’t give a heads up to ops and DX that they would be taking a meal break. They like to hear a leg or two in advance.
Captains discretion though, if they lost their breaks due to playing catch-up and the CA was able to give a good reason for doing it at the last minute then take a meal break. We aren’t robots.
Captains discretion though, if they lost their breaks due to playing catch-up and the CA was able to give a good reason for doing it at the last minute then take a meal break. We aren’t robots.
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