WICheeseHead

So what does Air Wisconsin have at this point to attract any new hires?
I guess good insurance, which typically isn't that big of an issue for new hires since they don't have families, illnesses (younger age), etc. Hate to say it, but they just fell off a lot of people's lists. I think GoJet, Mesa, etc are all better options for just about anyone.

Grumbletrousers

I wouldn’t go that far

RAHkid94

They're beating the snot out of us performance wise at least.

But yeah saying it's worse to work here than Mesa is hyperbole.

squib

You would think that, but half our new hires are like 50+ years old. Flew with one that was 62 and fresh of OE.

prex8390

Y’all still have your 1990s reputation which your management still thinks will pull y’all out of this mess. Also didn’t you see. There was like 15 people in your latest ground school class (((((with a 80% washout rate) too to fix this

FODhopper

Still better than the fall of 2016 when my Indoc classes only had 2 and sometimes 1...consistently.

Excargodog

What was your attrition then, and what is it now?

StrykerB21

Back then the one or two we got were Navy pilots looking to be Norfolk based for a few months until Delta calls. They obviously did just fine.

Now its pretty high for a number of reasons. I couldn't give you a percentage because I just don't know.

Excargodog

Yeah, but you miss the point on attrition. I meant attrition from the rest of the pilot group.

Back then you got one or two who did just fine, whereas now you are getting 15 but washing out 12 for a net of three. But how many of your existing pilots were getting picked up by a major then and how many now? Some of the ULCC have hired FOs with no TPIC, and retirements at the traditional majors are high and will be going higher for the next five years.

Two guys back then may have more than covered your attrition due to people getting hired away. I doubt that three guys will now. Most majors seem to select people during the year but bring them on board in the fall when the summer flying workload eases up. You gotta wonder how many captains already have the letter, and are waiting to give their two weeks notice until sometime in August or September.

And that isn't just for Air Wisconsin, it's for all the regionals. These will be interesting times....

donkeyjockey

This information comes straight from the published seniority lists:


A new hire in Jan of 15 was #793 and is now 306 of 565.


We lost the bulk of those from January of 2016 where we had 763 on property to January 2018 where we had 550. We hit our low point in July of 2017 where we had 495 on property.


FWIW