Jetmcquack1985

Wow, ok that's not encouraging, but I don't think tat elsewhere at least for the fisrt year it would be that different. I have friends in Republic and the first years wasn't easy either. About building PIC time thats another story regardless the base.

RANGER211

At the current pace, if you come here here you will not need to worry about PIC time. We will be out of business because we can’t fly what we are supposed to, can’t hire more on the front side than are leaving on the back side, how are those 18 month upgrades going?? They’ve been saying that for 18 months now and are still sitting at 30+ months and those guys are now delayed. I’d only come here if they pull the head cheeses and park them on the curb where they belong. It’s way past time for new leadership. This place is drowning and and they aren’t even offering a flotation device. You’ve been warned

Excargodog

In that case, you need to devote more time and effort into educating yourself about the situation. Asking questions is good. Auto-negating when you don't get the response you hoped for is less helpful.

You are confusing "isn't easy" which is frequently the case with newbies getting a type rating and generally commuting to reserve for a considerable period before they can become senior enough to be able to hold a line in a base they like - a status pretty common to most newbies - with having ALL of those problems AND institutional problems of inadequate staffing, old aircraft becoming difficult to maintain, and poor management. The former may be a near universal condition for newbies in ANY regional. The latter is not.

No, it is not. Building 121 PIC time is not a function of operating the controls. It is a function of BEING A CAPTAIN. Unless the guy in the left seat should die of a heart attack on a trip, you will log NO PIC, and even if they did, you will log only that interval from the time they died until you either successfully land the aircraft or survive the crash.

Failing your captain dying in the cockpit, your PIC time will be related to how quickly you can upgrade, which has a number of variables. Some of these do indeed vary by base, some by the regional you choose, while others are out of your hands altogether.

Now you don't HAVE to listen to any of the people responding to you, you are a big boy now, but as the previous poster said, you've been warned.

Blessed319

It's clear there are staffing issues, and the quality of life issues are legit. I would like to share some light on some of the good parts of air Wisconsin. I'm previous airline, back for another go. In 8 previous 121 hour flying years I called in sick twice total. Since coming to Air Wisconsin I have had my nanny quit without notice, I got severely sick from an illness I contacted doing volunteer work, pulled me off a trip when my sitter which happened to be my mom was rushed to the ER, and most recently very accommodating after I was rear ended by some moron before starting a trip. I am by definition living the through the year from hell, but this company has been more than gracious and professional towards me. I will say that I required no additional training, and followed their footprints set for me. There are a lot of issues that probably need correcting here, and the junior manning and other quality of life issues need to be addressed for the health of the pilot group, but there are some darn good people here, especially the folks in training and on the line.

lukeh99

The junior mans are not fun, but if you play the system you will make a lot of money here. I know a few FOs who credit 140-160 hours every month. Living in base makes this much more manageable so I would highly consider just making the move if your life allows it. There are plenty of nice small inexpensive towns in WI and IL if you don't want to do the big city thing.

I had 7 days off in a row right now and I picked up a 2 day with 2 legs and 4 hours of flying today that pays 12 hours solely because I can get those days back next month and because it gets me 2 junior mans closer to my 10 for the year.

You just have to know how to turn lemons into lemonade

RabidW0mbat

Mind if I shoot you a PM?

donkeyjockey

Agreed, there are good people here, just as everywhere else. There are also bad people here, just as everywhere else. The company is accommodating for situations in which you communicate your issue and explain to them what you need. I would have to venture a guess that this is similar everywhere else. Calling in sick twice in your previous 121 life was probably out of fear of punishment. It was a different time back then. What is AWAC going to do, fire you, take you off the line without pay? They can do neither, they need us too bad as does every other company out there.


I am not denying that AWAC has some pluses, they do. I am however agreeing with others who state that the condition AWAC currently sits is not as pretty, or comfortable as other regional airlines, especially if you have previous 121 time so that you can take advantage of bonus money and captain pay along with PIC turbine time before the current 30+month upgrades here. Additionally you don't have to deal with the constant jr mans and the constant lies about it getting better, and how great we are, and how quick youre going to upgrade.

Jetmcquack1985

I understand what you all guys are saying, and I gat that 85% of the people in this forum sees AWC as a company that it's gonna close ops in the next few years, for problems we all know. The fact is that moving to DC from where I am living at this time is a fact because of some personal reasons too. Republic and Mesa are out of the list, PSA and Commutair, even ABX invited me for an interview and I have another class scheduled for Express jet, so I have options here. The main thing is that if I have to commute, waste 6 days around and come back just one it's fine for me as long as the paycheck comes in the right way.
But maybe I am wrong, but for now turbine time and good bonuses with benefits are winning agaist quality of life, but then again that's how I see it from outside.

prex8390

Id quit the industry before I took a class with expressjet

squib

HA. where else ya going if mainline or an LCC isn't calling? Probably going to vote "yes" too.