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CAirBear 06-07-2018 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by ZenoAir (Post 2610372)
The mgmt trolls are trying hard to find some good in this current sh$t show they call a operation. Ya come be apart of our greatness join our sh$t show and fly for one of the worst performing operators in the UA system! Ya our contract will be renewed. Current mgmt has destroyed this place! JT and company have allowed a half lawyer run this place into the ground!

LOL! I forgot all about BFs “Online law Degree” 😂

injun21 06-08-2018 02:17 AM


Originally Posted by PassportPlump (Post 2610045)
You can try to paint AWAC in whatever light you want to, but something stinks when you’re one of about two people on this forum that say things are great at AWAC.

As a recently departed employee from there, my first day at my new company started my recovery process. AWAC was a good airline circa 200-2005 with Scott O. 2006-07 you had Bob F and Kevin L takeover. Downhill since then IMO.

A friend of mine who works there just got home 2.5 days after his scheduled trip end. He is a LCA there which means they own you.

Is AWAC better than unemployment? Sure. Are there better options out there? Absolutely.


I didn’t say things were great. I was making the point that commuting and living in/near base are two different things.

stroopwaffle 06-08-2018 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by PassportPlump (Post 2610045)

A friend of mine who works there just got home 2.5 days after his scheduled trip end. He is a LCA there which means they own you.

Sounds like they did that to themselves. Who lets the company string them along, especially a captain?

You can say no...

squib 06-11-2018 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by lukeh99 (Post 2606171)

I had 7 days off in a row right now and I picked up a 2 day with 2 legs and 4 hours of flying today that pays 12 hours solely because I can get those days back next month and because it gets me 2 junior mans closer to my 10 for the year.

You just have to know how to turn lemons into lemonade :D


I sincerely hope you do not think picking up a trip on your days off equate a junior man event.



No wonder this TA is gonna pass with guys like this. No one wants your terrible kool-aid mixed lemonade. If it was an actual junior man you choose one or the other. Please explain how it "pays 12 hours solely because you get those days back."


(and great, 10 for a year!, others have ZERO)

stroopwaffle 06-12-2018 05:20 AM

It doesn’t sound like 10 is a hard limit, people are getting/taking more than 10 junior mans.

squib 06-12-2018 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by stroopwaffle (Post 2612808)
It doesn’t sound like 10 is a hard limit, people are getting/taking more than 10 junior mans.


It's written in the contact in very simple language. There are guys who let scheduling force them into more somehow and tell them to grieve it later instead of just saying no. Then there are guys who accept more to enhance their paycheck. Either way, both are contractual violations.

JeffW85 06-12-2018 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by squib (Post 2612963)
It's written in the contact in very simple language. There are guys who let scheduling force them into more somehow and tell them to grieve it later instead of just saying no. Then there are guys who accept more to enhance their paycheck. Either way, both are contractual violations.

A pilot will not be required to fly open time pursuant to paragraphs P.1.f. or g. above, or be extended for more than six (6) duty hours (measured from the scheduled termination point of the pilot’s original trip hour period) or three (3) legs, whichever occurs first, pursuant to
Section 3.N., for more than a total of ten (10) duty periods in a calendar year, unless the pilot consents to perform the flying.

Emphasis added. Only one circumstance mentioned above is an actual contract violation, albeit a pretty brazen one.

lukeh99 06-12-2018 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by squib (Post 2612688)
I sincerely hope you do not think picking up a trip on your days off equate a junior man event.



No wonder this TA is gonna pass with guys like this. No one wants your terrible kool-aid mixed lemonade. If it was an actual junior man you choose one or the other. Please explain how it "pays 12 hours solely because you get those days back."


(and great, 10 for a year!, others have ZERO)

I put in the pick up comments I would accept as a junior man only. Taking a day in lieu does not eliminate your 200% pay. You get paid the higher of 200% or the day in lieu. It takes some planning but you can come out ahead in hours with same number of days off. If you don’t believe this check the latest union email for a breakdown.

lukeh99 06-12-2018 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by stroopwaffle (Post 2612808)
It doesn’t sound like 10 is a hard limit, people are getting/taking more than 10 junior mans.

I know many who are well over 10 intentionally for paycheck enhancement. Haven’t actually spoken to anyone who was forced over 10. I suppose it could be happening but haven’t heard/seen any direct evidence.

StrykerB21 06-12-2018 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by lukeh99 (Post 2613031)
I know many who are well over 10 intentionally for paycheck enhancement. Haven’t actually spoken to anyone who was forced over 10. I suppose it could be happening but haven’t heard/seen any direct evidence.

Everyone seems to know someone whos been forced past 10 junior mans but no one knows that someones name.


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