Never been part of the union. Dont even generally read their emails. Dont care too. Just past fed up with the horrific quality of life.

Airwilly forum currently at 78.6% no vote. Qol AND money is what we want.

I can’t disagree. But as long as we hire what we hire, things will never change.

Haven’t been on there since Steve and Carl aren’t feuding on there any longer

Well a no vote gets us neither. Itll leave every union leadership position vacant (im sure that pole smoker cm or alcoholic rf will step up after all). Itll be a year minimum before going back to the table to open up every section again. Fact is we already get our 1.5% raise that compounds annually. How much higher paid can we expect to be when the reality is we operate in a cuthroat ffd segment. I hope everyone voting no is prepared to suffer the consequences because ol frisch aint gonna jump back to the table and offer us 15% because we voted no again.

A no vote will get nothing with that attitude. This could be over if the union actively picketed and sent cards to potential new hires (like Frontier did) to ask them to steer clear of the company. Dry up the flow of new hires and the company will come back to the table.

The union never should've signed the LOA authorizing new hire bonuses to begin with.

Less than it will cost them if they certify someone who isn't up to the job.



Regional wide, the companies have all repeatedly lowered recruiting standards just to get butts in the seats at the schoolhouses. But the lowered recruiting standards (now approaching, 1500 hours of SOME KIND of flying and the ability to fog a mirror) means these applicants are less likely to make it through training. Couple that with unprecedented hiring by the majors, oftentimes from the very instructors and CKAs needed to make a training program effective, leads to washbacks that use up still more instructor and sim time. It's sort of a perfect cr@pstorm in the regional industry training facilities right now.

All true, but what is the inflation rate? Answer - 2.8% over the last 12 months


https://www.bls.gov/cpi/home.htm


Meaning that a 1.5% annual raise actually means the value of your salary will actually DECREASE by 1.3% per year, which - yeah - compounds annually.

What annual raises do you get at any other regional?

Simple math will show you that based on longevity most other regionals (based on the APC pay scales) get greater than a 3% pay raise annually.