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Day4mx 06-12-2018 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by StrykerB21 (Post 2613167)
Everyone seems to know someone whos been forced past 10 junior mans but no one knows that someones name.

Ive yet to fly with any one over ten but ive flown with multiple new fo's, too many to be a coincidence or misunderstanding, who are under the impression that theyre required to answer phone calls and accept junior mans on days off. One told me Paula came in to explain scheduling during indoc and said theyre required to answer/accept.

StrykerB21 06-12-2018 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Day4mx (Post 2613180)
Ive yet to fly with any one over ten but ive flown with multiple new fo's, too many to be a coincidence or misunderstanding, who are under the impression that theyre required to answer phone calls and accept junior mans on days off. One told me Paula came in to explain scheduling during indoc and said theyre required to answer/accept.

Now THAT I believe. I hope whoever was teaching indoc set the record straight to that class.

IFLYACRJ 06-12-2018 05:17 PM

I only have 2 JMs this year. I must be doing something wrong


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OT35 06-12-2018 05:22 PM

Somehow I dont have any JM's. Those 5 leg day 4's that start before 0600 must be doing the trick

Junkyard Dog 06-12-2018 05:38 PM

We will be short staffed as long as they keep washing out new hires in training. I wonder how much this costs the company when less than half a new hire class can get through training.

StrykerB21 06-12-2018 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by Junkyard Dog (Post 2613303)
We will be short staffed as long as they keep washing out new hires in training. I wonder how much this costs the company when less than half a new hire class can get through training.

Id rather they wash out and us be perpetually understaffed than squeeze someone through that probably isn't capable of the job. Our training department isnt without its faults but I like that our standards are high. Just one mans opinion though.

BigWillyCapt 06-13-2018 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by StrykerB21 (Post 2613354)
Id rather they wash out and us be perpetually understaffed than squeeze someone through that probably isn't capable of the job. Our training department isnt without its faults but I like that our standards are high. Just one mans opinion though.


This ^^^^


After doing IOE for 7 years I was glad the standards are there. There were more than a few who made it to IOE and needed a ton of help. Some made it, some didn't. And, that being said, the majority that make it through did a fine job on the line.

IFLYACRJ 06-14-2018 06:24 AM

I’ve had the pleasure of flying with a few newbies. I have had no issues with any of them except one or two being a bit nervous.
I’d rather the training dept send out Pilots who are proficient and LCAs sign off those who are ready.



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Day4mx 06-14-2018 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Junkyard Dog (Post 2613303)
We will be short staffed as long as they keep washing out new hires in training. I wonder how much this costs the company when less than half a new hire class can get through training.

The only way QOL ever improves here is if this TA passes. The company will have their feet held to the fire if we get premium pay AND a day off with pay. Thats unsuatainable for the company. Without this ta.. We will keep getting our 7 days off a month.

idlethrust 06-14-2018 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Day4mx (Post 2614345)
The only way QOL ever improves here is if this TA passes. The company will have their feet held to the fire if we get premium pay AND a day off with pay. Thats unsuatainable for the company. Without this ta.. We will keep getting our 7 days off a month.

^^^^^^^ either a union guy or a troll trying to push this crap of a ta.NO NO and F$@k NO


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