Another new checklist disaster
08-21-2019, 09:01 AM
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Another new checklist disaster
Does anyone read this garbage before they release it? One minute of looking at it and someone can see the checklist doesn’t match the expanded procedures. No wonder new hires can’t make it through training because one document doesn’t match the next and they don’t know what to say or do in the sim.
08-21-2019, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 42ER
Airplane mode/ OFF
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If they took this long to get this approve I wonder how long it’ll take if everything is perfect....
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OFF
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🤦🏻*♂️
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If they took this long to get this approve I wonder how long it’ll take if everything is perfect....
08-23-2019, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by squib
Does anyone read this garbage before they release it? One minute of looking at it and someone can see the checklist doesn’t match the expanded procedures. No wonder new hires can’t make it through training because one document doesn’t match the next and they don’t know what to say or do in the sim.
08-23-2019, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JuniorFO
You do realize that a 'check' on a checklist only verifies critical items, right? A proper checklist doesn't match amplified procedures.
08-23-2019, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by squib
Verbal responses in expanded procedures have always mirrored the expected response on a checklist. You do realize that when things don’t match people get confused, right? No wonder there’s training failures at the level there are. Theres no reason checklists on a 3 decade old airplane to change like they do.
08-23-2019, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
I’m just happy we can start engines on pushback and not transfer controls for the brief. Who cares about checklist verbiage, you’ll memorize it in like 2 days on the line without even trying.
Maybe it will come with bite sized snickers to be placed in crew rooms from 8:15-9:00 (until supplies last).
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