Another new checklist disaster
08-23-2019, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by squib
We “can” start an engine 2 minutes early. Who cares? This industry pays by the minute. Apparently there are people out there worried more about when to start an engine or who talks on the radios during descent than a real quality of life improvement. At least the newest TA was sent back before it made it to the pilots.
Maybe it will come with bite sized snickers to be placed in crew rooms from 8:15-9:00 (until supplies last).
Maybe it will come with bite sized snickers to be placed in crew rooms from 8:15-9:00 (until supplies last).
08-23-2019, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by squib
We “can” start an engine 2 minutes early. Who cares? This industry pays by the minute. Apparently there are people out there worried more about when to start an engine or who talks on the radios during descent than a real quality of life improvement. At least the newest TA was sent back before it made it to the pilots.
Maybe it will come with bite sized snickers to be placed in crew rooms from 8:15-9:00 (until supplies last).
Maybe it will come with bite sized snickers to be placed in crew rooms from 8:15-9:00 (until supplies last).
Those are quality of life improvements.
08-23-2019, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
I was unaware the checklist had any impact on work rules or quality of life.
08-23-2019, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CanWeGetTheLeft
See my above post. Checklists and procedures can, in fact, have a direct relation to both. This one happens to be an improvement, even if it’s a small one.
This just seems like a really odd thing to get either bent out of shape or excited about. It’s impact on day to day line flying is about as much as a 3 knot difference in winds aloft.
08-24-2019, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CanWeGetTheLeft
I care about starting the engine 2 minutes early. Why? Because it allows me to start counting “block” time for 117 purposes 2 minutes early (which is another issue...it should start at door-beacon-brake). It also means I can start moving two minutes early on the last leg, and sometimes those minutes matter when you have a commute to make. I’ve hade 2 minutes make the difference between getting home in time for dinner as opposed to the next morning.
Those are quality of life improvements.
Those are quality of life improvements.
08-24-2019, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
I was unaware the checklist had any impact on work rules or quality of life.
08-24-2019, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by squib
I said people are more worried about a checklist than something that matters to improve quality of life. Are you the same guy who signs off on the checklists?
08-25-2019, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
For those not there anymore, what did they change in the checklist?
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