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Old 04-30-2020 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tilem
Yeah, um no. He’s spot on. American pilots are and will be furloughed. The visa’s were sponsored in large part due to the shortage of pilots and that is no longer.

American citizens deserve to be protected first. The visa’s need to be cancelled. We have a duty to protect American jobs FIRST.
Yup because immigrants just want to run to America and take American jobs. That’s our whole aim right? Maybe we’re willing to put in the hard work and sacrifice unlike some bums sitting in their parents basement watching Fox News or thinking they’re superior or entitled first because they were born in America.

This is a nation of immigrants like myself and millions of others before us, and there’s not a damn thing Trump or his base can do about it. People like me didn’t come here to steal an American job, we earned it and if an American born citizen didn’t get the job it’s because he/she didn’t make the grade.

If someone can enter this country legally and be willing to work hard and contribute to the system then they have all the rights to equal opportunity.

Hey what if other countries adopted this garbage thinking and said jobs should go to locals first not expatriates aka Americans or other nationalities? I bet you’d hate that wouldn’t you because you’re entitled aren’t you or spew rubbish like “oh look at them they hate Americans.”

People like you need to get out of your caves and see the world and how things work instead of *****ing about freedom and protectionism and false patriotism because it is an embarrassment to the American spirit. The problem is many people here haven’t seen what other people in other parts of the world don’t have or are subjected to so you take it for granted.

Read Emma Lazarus’ plaque, that is America.
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Old 04-30-2020 | 06:55 PM
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Sorry I missed most of this convo, but where did you here C5 furloughed anyone? Everyone is either on 75 min or on a COLA no one has been let go that is on the line.
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Old 04-30-2020 | 07:01 PM
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Slow down on the Trump ass kissing rhetoric bro. That's some uniformed ****. The increased racial divide that people are complaining about started long before Trump took office.

Sound immigration policy does NOT equate to racism. That is called a red herring.
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Old 04-30-2020 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman21
Slow down on the Trump ass kissing rhetoric bro. That's some uniformed ****. The increased racial divide that people are complaining about started long before Trump took office.

Sound immigration policy does NOT equate to racism. That is called a red herring.
Agreed!!

Their are plenty of Conservative, constitutionalist, and libertarians that arent bigots. I will vote Republican, not bc I like Trump but bc I agree more with him then the left. Just my opinion. And everyone is entitled to one. This person does not represent the right. So enough with the stereotypes. And try not to make this political. He is just an ass wipe.
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Old 04-30-2020 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tilem
Yeah, um no. He’s spot on. American pilots are and will be furloughed. The visa’s were sponsored in large part due to the shortage of pilots and that is no longer.

American citizens deserve to be protected first. The visa’s need to be cancelled. We have a duty to protect American jobs FIRST.
So you think all the pilots on short term visa's are taking your jobs? There would be less than 300 pilots in the whole USA on short term visa's. Not exactly a huge amount.

Do you think UK, Germany etc should send all it's short term visa US citizens home right away to sit on unemployment here?
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Old 04-30-2020 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tilem
Yeah, um no. He’s spot on. American pilots are and will be furloughed. The visa’s were sponsored in large part due to the shortage of pilots and that is no longer.

American citizens deserve to be protected first. The visa’s need to be cancelled. We have a duty to protect American jobs FIRST.
I’m embarrassed there are people this ignorant flying professionally at my airline. They’re living in America, paying American taxes, supporting the American economy. You want to prevent hiring in the future? Sure. But demanding revoking their green cards now? you’re just wanting to take away jobs from people solely because they were born somewhere else because you didn’t prepare for a downturn. Don’t pretend it’s anything about “American jobs”.

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Old 04-30-2020 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
I’m embarrassed there are people this ignorant flying professionally at my airline. They’re living in America, paying American taxes, supporting the American economy. You want to prevent hiring in the future? Sure. But demanding revoking their green cards now? you’re just wanting to take away jobs from people solely because they were born somewhere else because you didn’t prepare for a downturn. Don’t pretend it’s anything about “American jobs”.
👆 that’s what I’m talking about!!!
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Old 05-01-2020 | 02:20 AM
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Peanut. About 30% of the medical workforce are immigrants or nom citizens. Send em home NOW. ha ha.

Meh he's just being a protectionist, its what happens when someones own inadequacies are laid bare as a result.of years of entitlement and complacency. There are billions of people aroind the world doggypoo that would clamber over you to take your job. Better buck up, loose some weight, get a haircut and make yourself more competative.

I'm an immigrant, funny thing is I've probably spent more years fighting along side your military protecting your way of life than you have.
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Old 05-01-2020 | 03:36 PM
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Protectionist gotta ask himself if America is about bootstrapping your way up (equal opportunity merit based system) OR entitlement based on identity (heritage, color, sex, religion, who you screw, etc).

Anyone who's been through the legal immigration process in this country has been through a helluva ringer and should be lauded. I wish all our citizens had to pass a civics test.
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Old 05-01-2020 | 03:57 PM
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Instead of this, let's engage in wild, irresponsible, completely uninformed speculation about the future of the UAX carriers!

UA said nothing really about UAX in their town hall today, but they were beating the "get ready for furloughs" drum hard. I really thought SK was gonna cry which...well it's doesn't inspire confidence.

Personally, I don't see how they permanently cut UAX in favor of mainline medium term. It's down gauging in a time of low demand, and it's cheaper labor. Why am I wrong?
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