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DarkSideMoon 04-25-2020 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3041408)
You can see for yourself but it’s about constant. 2.2 mil. Even so I disagree that last year means ANYTHING. This is a solid trend up within our current circumstances.

You’re grasping at straws.... Four days of data like this with no context means nothing.

Go back a few more days and you see 102,000 on April 13 then back down to 87,000 the 14th. Look at last year and you’ll see jumps of up to +-500,000 people day to day. We’re still at like 5% of the load factor we were at last year.

Itsajob 04-25-2020 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3041184)
it’s a 25 percent increase.

Not when compared to normal numbers. Going from 4 to 5 total passengers on a plane is a 25% increase, but you still go out of business. When you compare the loads now to the same day last year (what we need to all keep a job), it isn’t enough of an improvement to even matter. On 4/20 the number reported by the TSA was 4.407% of the same day last year. On 4/24 the reported number was 4.896% what last year was. We have gained 0.489% in 4 days, yet the total industry traffic isn’t even enough to support one airline.

iceman21 04-25-2020 02:59 PM

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Av8rPHX 04-25-2020 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by SuperFlier (Post 3041213)
He may not be a good guy, but card counting is not a crime in any state.


Rain Man did it...and he was a ra-tard


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pangolin 04-25-2020 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3041447)
Not when compared to normal numbers. Going from 4 to 5 total passengers on a plane is a 25% increase, but you still go out of business. When you compare the loads now to the same day last year (what we need to all keep a job), it isn’t enough of an improvement to even matter. On 4/20 the number reported by the TSA was 4.407% of the same day last year. On 4/24 the reported number was 4.896% what last year was. We have gained 0.489% in 4 days, yet the total industry traffic isn’t even enough to support one airline.

You totally miss my contention. No stay at home orders have yet been lifted. Nothing has changed with the virus. Yet we see loads increasing. I said it my original post that I believe it’s evidence that people will not continue to tolerate the lock down. They are finished with it.

DarkSideMoon 04-25-2020 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3041477)
You totally miss my contention. No stay at home orders have yet been lifted. Nothing has changed with the virus. Yet we see loads increasing. I said it my original post that I believe it’s evidence that people will not continue to tolerate the lock down. They are finished with it.

a statistically insignificant amount of people are traveling. You cannot extrapolate that to mean “People are finished with the lockdown”. Even in states without stay at home orders bars and restaurants are still closed voluntarily.

Itsajob 04-25-2020 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3041477)
You totally miss my contention. No stay at home orders have yet been lifted. Nothing has changed with the virus. Yet we see loads increasing. I said it my original post that I believe it’s evidence that people will not continue to tolerate the lock down. They are finished with it.

I hope that you’re right, but most economists predict an airline recovery that takes several years. The fallout from the lockdown hasn’t hit yet either. People are sitting at home for months not earning an income, businesses are not earning any revenue, and people are genuinely afraid of crowds. That is not something most people just bounce back from. The restrictions sound like they will be lifted in phases which could further slow the recovery. People may want to be finished with this, but it is going to last a little longer, and therefore, the recovery will take longer too.

Turbosina 04-25-2020 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by Melit (Post 3041204)
Kirby is a criminal. He got fired from American and he is banned from 150 casinos for card counting. Really a stand up guy!

I know a thing or three about counting. My hat is off to the guy. It is extremely, extremely difficult, even after years of practice. Still, though, if you get caught,,,it means you didn't do it very well.

UnitedExpress 04-27-2020 07:16 PM

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Excargodog 04-27-2020 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 3041483)
a statistically insignificant amount of people are traveling. You cannot extrapolate that to mean “People are finished with the lockdown”. Even in states without stay at home orders bars and restaurants are still closed voluntarily.


https://i.ibb.co/25JTZ4J/8-DBB0-DF4-...CDEC4-FE27.jpg




Uh.... 128,000 isn’t Avogadro’s number or anything, but by no stretch of the imagination is it statistically insignificant. And today was the highest number in three weeks. The trend is definitely your friend.


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