Search

Notices
Air Wisconsin Regional Airline

Air Wisconsin

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-13-2015 | 07:08 AM
  #1591  
billyho's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,450
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by nuball5
The fact that this is their first recruiting initiative after the TA failed and with both Republic and CommutAir announcing new flying/contract tells me that there's no way Air Wisconsin wants to be in business past Feb 2018. That or they're totally nieve at the state of the regional industry today.
It happened at Piedmont as well. You can have a great contract and great pay but sometimes that doesn't mean crap. Piedmont had it but it still didn't keep people from leaving 7 years ago. Tons left for Republic and took pay cuts to leave. Why? They didn't see an upgrade anywhere in there future and we were still flying tired worn out equipment.

AWAC is senior top heavy and many of there pilots aren't going anywhere or they just can't and each have their reasons for staying. This when paired up with no new flying or growth means stagnation for anyone on the property right now.

Will a new higher paying contract help? I don't know because it seems right now nobody wants to go anywhere there's a 4-5 year upgrade.

Has AWAC management offered any early out packages for it's senior folks? I know Piedmont offered early retirement and we had Captains leave. Then again I don't know what kind of retirement plan AWAC has.

Two options for AWAC is either secure new flying with what they have and some type of pref. hiring or flow, or actually secure new flying that allows for growth. Seems this might be the only two options. I'd like to see American purchase them and offer them a flow also, or maybe come to a new agreement that will allow them to have a pref. interview with American. AWAC has a great product and I'd be shocked if they just fizzled away. Just can't see that happening.
Reply
Old 11-13-2015 | 10:07 AM
  #1592  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
Default

Almost every regional has had something positive happen over the past year or so. Literally every other regional airline has added some sort of flying (including expressjet, though not a net gain). I think it's a matter of time until something good happens. I just can't see us going out of business just because our contract went up, everyone has finite contracts. But if we do, that's fine too, I for one wolnt be starting over again in the right seat at another regional.

One thing I've learned while observing this crazy industry over the years is that literally anything can happen. I mean, who would have ever thought Commutair would have pulled that rabbit out of their a** (good for those guys). I now have given up trying to predict what will happen and have surrendered myself to the fact that anything is possible.
Reply
Old 11-13-2015 | 12:22 PM
  #1593  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 227
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey
Almost every regional has had something positive happen over the past year or so. Literally every other regional airline has added some sort of flying (including expressjet, though not a net gain). I think it's a matter of time until something good happens. I just can't see us going out of business just because our contract went up, everyone has finite contracts. But if we do, that's fine too, I for one wolnt be starting over again in the right seat at another regional.

One thing I've learned while observing this crazy industry over the years is that literally anything can happen. I mean, who would have ever thought Commutair would have pulled that rabbit out of their a** (good for those guys). I now have given up trying to predict what will happen and have surrendered myself to the fact that anything is possible.

I fully agree. I have always said I will not make a lateral move- this was before the $40 1st yr pay we are seeing now. Still, it is my last resort, and I mean LAST- I'd rather flight instruct back home, fly some Merlins and King Airs while updating my app and waiting for a LCC than play this BS shell game that is the regionals.
Reply
Old 11-15-2015 | 07:27 AM
  #1594  
el jefe's Avatar
Tier 3 Candidate
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 609
Likes: 0
From: Canadair Gosh
Default

New contract survey ends Nov 20.

Take the 5 minutes to complete it.

Make your voice heard. This is your chance to tell the union what YOU want.
Reply
Old 11-15-2015 | 09:05 AM
  #1595  
Realtalk's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by el jefe
New contract survey ends Nov 20.

Take the 5 minutes to complete it.

Make your voice heard. This is your chance to tell the union what YOU want.
They didn't listen to me last time. I hope it changes this time.
Reply
Old 11-15-2015 | 10:55 AM
  #1596  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 547
Likes: 0
Default

My survey is in...I am one of the 25%.
Reply
Old 11-15-2015 | 07:39 PM
  #1597  
CAirBear's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,225
Likes: 8
Default

Originally Posted by FODhopper
My survey is in...I am one of the 25%.
Of what? Has no one completed it?
Reply
Old 11-16-2015 | 04:51 AM
  #1598  
el jefe's Avatar
Tier 3 Candidate
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 609
Likes: 0
From: Canadair Gosh
Default

I think they need a certain percentage of the pilot group to respond before they can go back to the negotiating table. Until we get enough pilots to fill it out, we are dead in the water.
Reply
Old 11-16-2015 | 05:42 AM
  #1599  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Realtalk
They didn't listen to me last time. I hope it changes this time.
I think the NC was acting on direction they received when they began negotiations, 5 years ago. Circumstances have since changed.
Reply
Old 11-16-2015 | 10:29 AM
  #1600  
CAirBear's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,225
Likes: 8
Default

Originally Posted by el jefe
I think they need a certain percentage of the pilot group to respond before they can go back to the negotiating table. Until we get enough pilots to fill it out, we are dead in the water.
Gotcha. Well people better make the time to do it! It doesn't take that long.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Duksrule
Hangar Talk
4
11-09-2011 06:56 AM
freightdog
Regional
64
12-03-2009 02:17 PM
Jurassic Jet
Cargo
26
11-15-2007 07:16 AM
flystraightin
Major
4
05-31-2006 06:31 AM
Sir James
Hangar Talk
0
08-04-2005 04:31 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices