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03-23-2016, 12:33 PM
#2002
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Joined APC: Feb 2012
Posts: 547
Originally Posted by mm1989
Speaking of training dept... Are we still required to know the entire IAC or just stared items? I'm hearing mixed reviews and have recurrent next month
03-23-2016, 12:43 PM
#2003
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Slightly less broke side of RJ
Posts: 132
Originally Posted by mm1989
Speaking of training dept... Are we still required to know the entire IAC or just stared items? I'm hearing mixed reviews and have recurrent next month
03-23-2016, 12:53 PM
#2004
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: CA
Posts: 309
Originally Posted by l2flare
as always whatever pif may of come out of Appleton I would not recommend showing up without it down cold
03-23-2016, 01:09 PM
#2005
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 240
Originally Posted by FODhopper
I've heard the same complaint about sim instructors and I don't have any further insight into that other than I agree the next wave of instructors has been much fresher and better.
As for people going elsewhere and doing well...some of that is on AWAC...a lot is on the standards at other airlines...passing our classroom is about learning the material...at other places it is much closer to teaching the test...who would you rather fly with?
Not to say we want to be Lord of the Flies...that is not fun...and to that end...recently (last six months) we have gone away from the numbers game...having to memorize obtuse and arcane numbers when lights trip off rather than understanding basic operation and you will learn more along the way.
Having taught the "new way" a couple of times...I think it has gone much better...classroom pass rates are up much higher, even though our classroom fail rate has always been low (once in a while)..but I think also because of the "new way", it's likely the pass rate in orals will improve.
One of the hard parts is for the instructors to downshift from what was "need to know" before to what it is now...and believe that it will be okay.
As for people going elsewhere and doing well...some of that is on AWAC...a lot is on the standards at other airlines...passing our classroom is about learning the material...at other places it is much closer to teaching the test...who would you rather fly with?
Not to say we want to be Lord of the Flies...that is not fun...and to that end...recently (last six months) we have gone away from the numbers game...having to memorize obtuse and arcane numbers when lights trip off rather than understanding basic operation and you will learn more along the way.
Having taught the "new way" a couple of times...I think it has gone much better...classroom pass rates are up much higher, even though our classroom fail rate has always been low (once in a while)..but I think also because of the "new way", it's likely the pass rate in orals will improve.
One of the hard parts is for the instructors to downshift from what was "need to know" before to what it is now...and believe that it will be okay.
03-23-2016, 02:14 PM
#2006
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Position: CRJ 0B
Posts: 215
Originally Posted by Fleron270
Unfortunately on my check ride, the examiner asked all questions from the "old way". I had to know all of the useless numbers and facts I was specifically told I didn't have to memorize. There needs to be clearer and more specific communication between the training department and the examiners. I did have an examiner who has been doing the same check ride for the past 10 years.
03-23-2016, 03:14 PM
#2009
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Canadair Gosh
Posts: 609
In the past 8 years I have had every question asked of me in 2 hours, and I have had one question in 2 hours. Always show up as if they are asking you to write the manual. And always know a little bit about motorcycles and sausage.
03-23-2016, 05:58 PM
#2010
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Position: CRJ 0B
Posts: 215
Originally Posted by FODhopper
I am curious to know more about the limits of the scope clause because from my understanding Republic can buy the C series since they were operating their own airline...Frontier (until they sold it) or some other venture not yet announced.
How can AWAC acquire the C series and still stay within scope, unless they are going back to the good 'ol days when they actually sold tickets on their own routes? But something ells me Appleton to Kokomo, IN is not going to be as lucrative
How can AWAC acquire the C series and still stay within scope, unless they are going back to the good 'ol days when they actually sold tickets on their own routes? But something ells me Appleton to Kokomo, IN is not going to be as lucrative
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