Air Wis would be better off negotiating a Sunset Letter of Agreement to the contract with the pilot group. That way folks who want to stick around could make a few more $$ and the company could count on some staffing till the last flight. The cloak and dagger of waiting to tell the pilots of the lack of a future is just pure disingenuous of the management.

But what has changed in ATW not much.

 

Shame on you. How many years of abuse did it take you to arrive at that conclusion? You have classic Stockholm syndrome and need to evaluate your own role in your present situation.

 

I see what you guys are talking about, and believe me, everyone at the other regionals is looking at you guys wondering what's going to happen.

If I were you guys, I wouldn't worry about being completely out of a job. That being said, a merger looks like the only way out.

Was there ever a reason given about why last year's potential deal fell apart?

 

By last year's potential deal do you mean the TA? If so then it fell apart because it was crap. No pay raises, higher health benefit contributions...overall it was a concessionary deal although the union will deny that until the day they die.

 

Sorry, I meant the deal for additional flying.

 

Our CP told me it was because we wanted to be patient and not take the first deal that came our way. The company believes we will be needed in the future.

 

The contract with delta fell though becuase there was language in the agreement that the owners didn't like, pretty much high promises that we had to make and if we didn't come though meant heavy fines or termination of the agreement. Something of the like

 

In other words, they saw the wolf in sheeps clothing

 

Our guy Saul Goodman advised us we had a fat chicks chance at the dance to make that deal work

 

Not sure where you work or what abuse you have endured, but if AWAC has caused me to have Stockholm syndrome then I wouldn't know what people at other places have, because the 'pain' that I have felt is laughable compared to a 7 year FO at envoy, endeavor, or a GoJet pilot.

By screwed I mean I have been Junior manned/extended 3 or 4 times in the span of 5 years, not been provided positive space when having commuting issues a few times (although no disciplinary action either of course), and been twice rerouted from a nice trip in to crappy overnight for operational reasons. And that is it. I have friends at DAL and UAL that have some worst stories.

You results will vary, but even having sat FO reserve for almost 2 yrs and 5 year upgrade I have NEVER worked a x-mas, thanksgiving, or major holiday, and averaged 13-14 days off with 80-85hrs credit.

I am not special or pretty in any way so if you work at AWAC and you have experienced something far worse, then go back to bidding and working the system 101.

If you don't work at AWAC and you have had worst experiences than me, then sorry I guess?

You see, I wanted to be an airline pilot. And guess what? I did it. If we close shop tomorrow then yes I would open my job search to JetBlue, Southwest, and Spirit as place holders till one of the big 3 calls. Would I start over at PSA, RAH, etc? No way. I will gladly walk out of the industry and still die happy. I am not one of those folks who seems to think that they cant do anything in life but fly. Thats why I got a science degree instead.

Cheers.