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Old 05-05-2016 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
Get the good stuff from billyho. He's obviously on something since he claims he gets all his info from his imaginary pilot friends and buddies that work at "probably every regional" in the United States, but then backpedals saying they don't exist..

I hope the fact that I enjoy this doesn't make me a troll
Poor Kid. You are so badly in need of a lesson on how the Regional Industry works. It's not rocket science for sure.
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Old 05-05-2016 | 10:17 AM
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Poor Kid. You are so badly in need of a lesson on how the Regional Industry works. It's not rocket science for sure.
Silly billy. What does making up false claims, then backpedaling once they backfire and you get called out have to do with how the regional industry works?
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Old 05-05-2016 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
Silly billy. What does making up false claims, then backpedaling once they backfire and you get called out have to do with how the regional industry works?
What false claims?
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Old 05-05-2016 | 10:41 AM
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What false claims?
I guess you always were better at dodging than fighting back. Fighting back is what got you into this mess in the first place.

I guess it's burdensome to be asked by an internet stranger to read back a page or two. So, I'm over it if you are. But your credibility (whatever was left of it) has taken a beating..
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Old 05-05-2016 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
I guess you always were better at dodging than fighting back. Fighting back is what got you into this mess in the first place.

I guess it's burdensome to be asked by an internet stranger to read back a page or two. So, I'm over it if you are. But your credibility (whatever was left of it) has taken a beating..
Never asked for any credibility. It is what it is. I honestly thought AWAC would vote their TA in. They didn't and I commend them for doing so.

It was predictable after that what would happen however. First they wouldn't get resigned by American because Parker wanted a cheaper fix cost. With no new contract comes an uncertain future. Uncertain future equals Junior FO's begin to bail out for other airlines with shorter upgrade times. Once FO's start leaving a company they will find it harder to upgrade pilots. Everyone knows you got to have FO's to upgrade Captains. So now you don't have upgrades happening which in itself causes more people to bail out.
Then you start parking a few planes and that again causes people to want to leave.
Do you see people knocking down doors to come to AWAC? Do you think people want to go to a regional today with a 5 year upgrade and uncertain future?
I've been there and seen this at Piedmont Airlines. Went through the exact thing. Finally after you've been beaten and broke down management will come at you with another offer. Then you make another choice.
Look around. PSA got pressured by Mesa to sign, Piedmont got pressured by PSA, Envoy got Pressured by both PSA and Piedmont. Horizon got Pressured by SkyWest to fly their 175's for much less then they wanted.

Welcome to the ALPA ran Regional world.
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Old 05-05-2016 | 11:16 AM
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Never asked for any credibility. It is what it is. I honestly thought AWAC would vote their TA in. They didn't and I commend them for doing so.

It was predictable after that what would happen however. First they wouldn't get resigned by American because Parker wanted a cheaper fix cost. With no new contract comes an uncertain future. Uncertain future equals Junior FO's begin to bail out for other airlines with shorter upgrade times. Once FO's start leaving a company they will find it harder to upgrade pilots. Everyone knows you got to have FO's to upgrade Captains. So now you don't have upgrades happening which in itself causes more people to bail out.
Then you start parking a few planes and that again causes people to want to leave.
Do you see people knocking down doors to come to AWAC? Do you think people want to go to a regional today with a 5 year upgrade and uncertain future?
I've been there and seen this at Piedmont Airlines. Went through the exact thing. Finally after you've been beaten and broke down management will come at you with another offer. Then you make another choice.
Look around. PSA got pressured by Mesa to sign, Piedmont got pressured by PSA, Envoy got Pressured by both PSA and Piedmont. Horizon got Pressured by SkyWest to fly their 175's for much less then they wanted.

Welcome to the ALPA ran Regional world.
That's all great. Very common sense information, and old history that everyone knows. Not sure what it has to do with you making up sources of information, but again I'm over it.. Carry on.
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Old 05-05-2016 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
That's all great. Very common sense information, and old history that everyone knows. Not sure what it has to do with you making up sources of information, but again I'm over it.. Carry on.
After August 2015 AA has hired very, very few off the street people and those they have hired have almost always had a military background. Reason being there just aren't that many slots available to off the street guys in general. I'm not sure why you are refusing to believe that. Yes, it's possible someone from AWAC will move on to AA but it's a very low percentage chance.
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Old 05-05-2016 | 11:57 AM
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After August 2015 AA has hired very, very few off the street people and those they have hired have almost always had a military background. Reason being there just aren't that many slots available to off the street guys in general. I'm not sure why you are refusing to believe that. Yes, it's possible someone from AWAC will move on to AA but it's a very low percentage chance.
I understand completely. I was just having fun watching billyho sweat after calling him out for making up false sources. But I'm over it since he admitted it. Moving on...
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Old 05-05-2016 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
I understand completely. I was just having fun watching billyho sweat after calling him out for making up false sources. But I'm over it since he admitted it. Moving on...
False sources??? What the hell are you talking about? Are you saying I don't know people that work for other regionals and legacy carriers? LOL
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Old 05-05-2016 | 12:09 PM
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False sources??? What the hell are you talking about? Are you saying I don't know people that work for other regionals and legacy carriers? LOL
Hey, you said it not me lol! Unless you are now accusing me of putting words in your mouth..
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