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Old 11-05-2017 | 05:56 AM
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The junior mans on the captain side have been painful this week.
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Old 11-05-2017 | 09:55 AM
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I've been interested in AW as I'm plotting my way out of my current non-flying staff job. I see the topic of Junior Manning and thought I understood the implications but maybe someone could shade in some areas for me. Does this mean you come off a trip and instead of getting into your car/commuting flight home you're sent right back out? If that is indeed the case do you get 150% pay? How often can this be done to a guy and how much warning do you normally get?

Appreciate any information folks are willing to share.
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Old 11-05-2017 | 10:21 AM
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That's pretty much it. At home and off duty don't answer your phone. It's 200% pay. I think we get 10 a year before they can't get you anymore. I hadn't had any in years till this week. You get to pick a day in leu to make up for lost days off. Often times very little warning.
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Old 11-05-2017 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchtrim
That's pretty much it. At home and off duty don't answer your phone. It's 200% pay. I think we get 10 a year before they can't get you anymore. I hadn't had any in years till this week. You get to pick a day in leu to make up for lost days off. Often times very little warning.
Would you say that is at the top of the list for QOL impacts at AW?
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Old 11-05-2017 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisInWI
Would you say that is at the top of the list for QOL impacts at AW?
Probably so. Who likes being to work longer and not get home when you expected? But there are a lot of jobs that have provisions for mandated (mando) work. I know a pilot got his 10 in by March. The more we can get staffed up the less this will happen. We are hiring more than we have in a long time. But it does take time to get people through. Wish it was all rosy and doesn't happen but it is reality.
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Old 11-05-2017 | 12:05 PM
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I was looking forward to a long stretch of days off. I lost out on 3 of them. I have a life. So yeah big qol killer. I was none too pleased. The double pay is nice to a point, but eventually you just want to go home. As stated above as staffing is filled this problem will slowly go away. Not going to happen overnight unfortunately.
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Old 11-05-2017 | 01:41 PM
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At least the captain shortage lends some validity to the 20 captain upgrade vacancy rumor floating around.
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Old 11-05-2017 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Squibs
At least the captain shortage lends some validity to the 20 captain upgrade vacancy rumor floating around.
Management confirmed it to me when I asked last week. Not that you have any reason to believe me nor I them, but the numbers don’t lie.
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Old 11-07-2017 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchtrim
That's pretty much it. At home and off duty don't answer your phone. It's 200% pay. I think we get 10 a year before they can't get you anymore. I hadn't had any in years till this week. You get to pick a day in leu to make up for lost days off. Often times very little warning.

At home or on duty, doesn't matter. Don't answer your phone. Unless you are on reserve you are only obligated to return their phone call within a certain period of time. Other than that you are never obligated to answer your phone, even on reserve, once you are given a flight assignment you are not required to answer your phone. They can threaten you all they want and tell you whatever they want. Read the contract and fly it.

It is typically better for the jr pilots to take the pay and not the day in lieu because they will jr man you on your day in lieu next month and you will never make up the lost time off. Take the pay and if you are not notified make sure you call and or email crew scheduling and ask for you qualifying event notification.
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Old 11-07-2017 | 09:03 AM
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Looking at the crew availability report on the website, I think we're getting close to adequately staffed on the FO side. I think some RSV might not even get a call in the next couple of days.

On the CA side tho...
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