Jetlife

Sweet does that mean we get a 22% and 30% raise if it goes to arbitration now? I'll take it, plus 10% lol.

plt32173

It's an educated risk I'm willing to take. Just cause you get bit hard at the table doesn't mean you shy away from doubling down on an 11. You keep a cool head and see the odds for what they are. Management sees it too. Bring it on. I can live with my decision.

MiLtoMajor123

Doesn't the house always eventually win statistically?

FMGEC

Not if SY "buys" AS... then AS would all merge into SY's list and take their pay scales. 😉 Instant cost savings.

plt32173

Haha. Yeah. They've already won. We're just try to walk away with something. They only have to negotiate 3 sections of a concessionary contract. That's why I dont think there should be a give and take with those three items. We've already given them the gift of not having to negotiate section 25 scheduling. We can't give them any room in Pay,Retirement, Scope.

ImperialxRat

I am new here, and I know I should probably just call my rep and ask this, but since you brought up scheduling I was wondering why we haven't cancelled some of these MOU's.

The MOU where we cannot trade a trip if it has more than a 4 hour start time difference... it says either party may cancel it with 30 days notice. I had an afternoon 3-day trip and was trying to trade for a morning 3-day trip on the exact same days. Reserve coverage was NEGATIVE in the morning and positive in the afternoon so it would have actually benefited the company!... denied due to the MOU.

It seems ridiculous to me... the only thing that should affect trading is reserve coverage.

Arctichicken

The intent of this MOU was to free up trip trading since in the past, emaestro/crew scheduling would deny a great majority of trade requests in the name of "lack of reserve coverage". It worked for a little while, that is, until Crew Access (aka Crew NoAccess) came along. The company and the author of Crew NoAccess programed this sodomizer to deny any and all trades that do not meet the MOU criteria. So in essence, the company took this MOU which was designed to enhance our QOL and turned it into yet another anti-pilot weapon of destruction. I'm not against PBS but could you imagine what this company will do if we hand them the keys to PBS or any other scheduling venue?

MiLtoMajor123

PBS isn't the problem...it's how crew support allows the transactions. At Skywest you could drop trips and pick up others all the time with PBS....you just had to get it approved and make sure you were legal to do so. In Fact I dropped a trip to go to my AS interview....someone pick up the whole trip no problem. The trick is you have to have someone pick it up or your still on the hook for it....least you call in sick. I honestly have no idea how AS's system works...I don't really care until i'm on the line....as I've got other things to worry about right now. I was just getting used to PBS when I left...and it makes life easier I would say....but I have nothing to compare it to. It just seemed flexible to what you wanted to do. Work more work less...drop/add.

BTW....I have no idea what MOU means..... I need a guide on all these new terms I've never had to deal with. The whole negotiations thing is completely over my head at this point.

Arctichicken

Not to be so sarcastic but you know how to Google $hit, right? C'mon dude, don't make us ex-mil types look bad.
MOU=Memorandum of Understanding.
As for PBS, I don't want to revive an old thread. Fly the the line and experience first hand our wonderful company, crew scheduling, and bidding first hand, and then come to your own conclusions. This management group is not nearly as nice as that of SkyWest and our work rules are an embarrassment to our profession. Welcome to the jungle.

N19906

"Memorandum Of Understanding"; a handshake agreement written down.
At least that's the idea.... "The Sodomizer"? Oh, that's funny!