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Softpayman 10-31-2017 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 2457870)
I feel bad for you all!!! I was hoping that the Arbitrator would rule on Scope because the Company "allowed" it to be negotiated. But SNAFU, the Arbitrators still won't rule on something that they deem a business decision. You all are going to have to be ready to walk for Scope on the next go around in 2020. I see QX 175s carrying 88 seats soon. SkyWest can't unless they want to lose their contract with United. Our Scope section doesn't allow for any regional partner to possess any jets with more than 76 seats. Regardless of who they fly them for.

Could they pull a Republic and just have a different operating certificate? One that did Alaska flying?

KingAirpilot90 10-31-2017 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Tubby (Post 2457570)
Here is the pay scale.

Any chance you can upload a better picture of the pay scale? It’s a little hard to make out the numbers

waterboy 10-31-2017 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2457839)
Arbitration went exactly like I expected. The only reason I made the comment about pay being fair is because it’s the ONLY thing we didn’t completely lose out on. It’s still not what we deserve. Scope is the big one and we didn’t get one drop of it, so what comes next is going to be really terrifying.

We lost on pay. A couple bucks over the company’s lowball offer is a loss.

If anything it’s the retirement that wasn’t awful. We go to 15% tomorrow and 15.5% Jan 1.

ShyGuy 10-31-2017 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by KingAirpilot90 (Post 2457965)
Any chance you can upload a better picture of the pay scale? It’s a little hard to make out the numbers

It's already out there in another thread
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/m...t-details.html

CowboyDan 10-31-2017 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by waterboy (Post 2457969)

If anything it’s the retirement that wasn’t awful. We go to 15% tomorrow and 15.5% Jan 1.

To clarify....it goes to 15.5 on Jan 1....2019

Big deal.

rickair7777 10-31-2017 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2457882)
Honestly I never thought I’d say this but with all the flying Alaska is giving Skywest, and how it seems like AAG is actively trying to kill Horizon, it wouldn’t shock me if Skywest said screw it and violated the agreement with United.

Not just UAL, DAL has a similar provision. Not happening... with SKW, I guess there's always great lakes, they'd love some jets.

Jetlife 10-31-2017 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2458008)
Not just UAL, DAL has a similar provision. Not happening... with SKW, I guess there's always great lakes, they'd love some jets.

In that regard, I am not panicking. The most realistic scenario is for AAG to breathe fresh air into Horizon and up seating capacity but without pilots, you are just going to disappoint more people.

rickair7777 10-31-2017 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2458012)
In that regard, I am not panicking. The most realistic scenario is for AAG to breathe fresh air into Horizon and up seating capacity but without pilots, you are just going to disappoint more people.

Regional staffing is only just starting to fray at the edges, SKW has already bitten off more than it will be able to chew in a couple of years.

rightside02 10-31-2017 10:25 AM

15.5 as versus what did you guys have before ? Just curious

ImperialxRat 10-31-2017 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by rightside02 (Post 2458103)
15.5 as versus what did you guys have before ? Just curious

13 currently. The goal was to get to to 16.


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