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Mea25000 , 01-24-2018 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by atooraya

Can you put this out as an equation, like if you were number 250 at VX? Does this mean 68 virgin guys get molded into the first 477 slots from 623-1100 and then 285 VX guys get molded in from 1100-1195 (Not sure if that's right because its only 95 spots your inferring or if its only 31 guys???), and finally 152 guys VX guys get molded into the last 1803 spots?

#623 at Alaska is a 1/2000 hire date and 1803 at Alaska is 11/16. I thought they were supposed to merge everyone from announcement. From my dumb math, the first 100 guys at Virgin, whom are senior line holders, would round out next to an Alaska hire date of 2011, which is an FO and is about 100 from upgrade....

Uhm yes that is really bad math and an old seniority list you are looking at.
The VX pilot group would have 353 pilots in the top 1548 of a company of 2850. Depending on retirements that is 353 pilots in the top 53% of the combined company.
VX seniority 100 would be @1108 or 38% a 24% slide. A very similar slide your #1 has to 624... a 20% slide.
But ignore me I am an idiot... listen to jive, if you can understand him. He has been right about everything... I think he is a made man.

#12

barondrvr , 01-24-2018 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by atooraya

This thread needs to stop. No need to stress over something we have no control over. This is the kind of crap that will deflect us from the real goal of unity in 2020.

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Mea25000 , 01-25-2018 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mea25000

Uhm yes that is really bad math and an old seniority list you are looking at.
The VX pilot group would have 353 pilots in the top 1548 of a company of 2850. Depending on retirements that is 353 pilots in the top 53% of the combined company.
VX seniority 100 would be @1131 or 38% a 24% slide. A very similar slide your #1 has to 624... a 20% slide.
But ignore me I am an idiot... listen to jive, if you can understand him. He has been right about everything... I think he is a made man.

Sorry VX# 100 would be at 1131 globally. That was tired bad math late at night but percentage wise is virtually the same number.

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Pogey Bait , 01-25-2018 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Going2Baja

As a 00' NWA hire I have an 07' hire senior to me at DAL. But I was also an 06' Alaska hire. Considering where I sit I'm very blessed to be where I'm at.

Baja.

I am confused, where do you work now....? NWA to ASA to DAL? So you quit NWA to go to ASA?

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Pogey Bait , 01-25-2018 06:21 AM

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Quit it already. Mods close it up.

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atooraya , 01-25-2018 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mea25000

Sorry VX# 100 would be at 1131 globally. That was tired bad math late at night but percentage wise is virtually the same number.

You've got some AWFUL math skills if you think #100 out of 850 Virgin guys at 11% is virtually the same number as #1131 out #3000 combined at 38%.

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flywest , 01-25-2018 06:49 AM

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DOH is the Gold Standard.

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tzskipper , 01-25-2018 06:54 AM

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It's a shame there isn't a "ALPA merger policy for dummies" book available to read...

Knowledge of the current policy covering ALPA-ALPA mergers would be a powerful thing.

This thread should close.

S

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Mea25000 , 01-25-2018 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by atooraya

You've got some AWFUL math skills if you think #100 out of 850 Virgin guys at 11% is virtually the same number as #1131 out #3000 combined at 38%.

1108 and 1131 are virtually the same number.

The first 280 or so at VX will see a 20% degradation in global seniority but base position will be unharmed. Most everyone else will see much smaller global position moves.

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Mea25000 , 01-25-2018 07:39 AM

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[QUOTE=tzskipper;2510992]It's a shame there isn't a "ALPA merger policy for dummies" book available to read...

Knowledge of the current policy covering ALPA-ALPA mergers would be a powerful thing.

This thread should close.

Well that tells you how blind you are. Alpa Alpa is a guide line not a rule. Mergers of NWA and DAL, CAL and UAL were mergers done by similar companies with equal footing. VX could not buy AS, they are by no stretch of the numbers, equal in any fashion. VX was a struggling start up and AS a 85 year old airline with the best balance sheets in the industry. Kill the thread though... I have to be wrong