I am one. My point being that the military culture that most of us grew up in (of which my personal and family history goes back about 100 years) did not have protections for those prone to addiction, in fact quite the opposite.

 

Yeah, the technical term for such a statement is slimey innuendo, and an insult to military veterans in general.



The PUBLICITY surrounding the incident makes you sick? The PUBLICITY???

Look, this either happened as the young lady said or it didn't. If they actually do have the videos of the captain forcing an impaired woman into HIS room, as the lawyer has said, then I see no reason not to believe the woman. If the lawyer PUBLICALLY stated they did, FOR THE RECORD, as has now been published in several newspapers, and they don't, the lawyer has opened herself to a major lawsuit for libel and even disbarment.

But if indeed the Alaska management has known about this situation since one of their own FAs called it in while it was still going on, and hasn't come to any resolution about it yet, they DESERVE the adverse publicity they are continuing to get.

I'd rate this a far more serious incident than dragging a protesting passenger off a flight or smothering a puppy in an overhead bin.

What WAS management thinking, letting it come to this?

 

Wow. If that’s not some of the worst victim blaming I’ve ever read I don’t know what is. That is some world class d-baggery on display right there.

Or maybe, and this may be hard to grasp, she was embarrassed, terrified, traumatized, afraid of retribution, afraid of being labeled in a mostly male pilot cadre, becoming an outcast, career implications, family/martial implications. Pick any of the two.

Then maybe after being tormented by it for a few months in her own mind she decided to speak out. It’s well documented that most cases of sexual assault go unreported for any and all of the reasons above, plus many more.

But yeah, she’s totally suspect for how she handled it.

 

I believe innocent until proven guilty. Apparently you dont. It is one of our constitutional rights you know. Look it up.

 

Well said, I also know the Capt very well. We flew many trips together and the same could be said about him what you wrote about her. All I can say is that this is going to be a very tough road for both parties and we all should just stop right here with the postings.

Baja.

 

I'm interested in knowing if there were any complaints filed with HR by other female crew . members against him. If this event happened, there's probably a history of slimy behavior...

 

And discovery in a civil action would be one way to find that out.

But in any event, the fact that an FA was concerned enough to call his supervisor about this - and that Alaska then deadheaded both pilots back home - speaks to the seriousness of this.

In eight months Alaska should have handled this - one way or another - and if the woman's lawyer isn't totally lying about the elevator and hall security tapes it is difficult to see why management or the union has been spinning their wheels on this.

 

Agreed, but what I was getting at was is there a history of complaints against him such as inappropriate touching or behavior? I find it hard to believe someone wouldn't have a history of HR complaints and just one day drug a fellow crew member and rape her. That is a HUGE leap....

 

And yet your second posting, after the one you said this story was "fishy," was this:

"How about because women are naturally crazy and we have this MeToo movement..."

You got a lot of gall trying to lecture anyone about presumption of innocence when your very first postings show a bias that would have easily gotten you kicked off any civil or criminal jury with a 'for cause' challenge.

 

Yeah that sort of thing is usually the tip of an iceberg.