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04-04-2018 | 06:45 AM

#531

Lugar

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead

Were these statements made public yesterday or what? Where did you see them?

They were added to the court docket, nearly simultaneous with Tilden’s comments being published.

04-04-2018 | 08:09 AM

#532

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Originally Posted by Lugar

They were added to the court docket, nearly simultaneous with Tilden’s comments being published.

I have no idea how one could get access to the court docket additions. How do you get that information?

04-04-2018 | 08:14 AM

#533

Moose

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Do you have a copy of statements?

04-04-2018 | 01:22 PM

#534

Lugar

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Originally Posted by busdriver12

I have no idea how one could get access to the court docket additions. How do you get that information?

If you have access to PACER, you can access it in real-time.

04-04-2018 | 01:43 PM

#535

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Originally Posted by Lugar

If you have access to PACER, you can access it in real-time.

That is a restricted site, I believe, authorized entry only. So....unlikely that most of us pilots will have access to that. Can you copy and paste the statements you're referring to?

04-04-2018 | 05:23 PM

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Mesabah

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Originally Posted by WutFace

Paging Dr. Mesabah...

I haven't seen the new info, but if the evidence is there, then a criminal charge is in order. A conviction will make her case against Alaska a slam dunk.

04-04-2018 | 06:10 PM

#537

boschpilot

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Originally Posted by Mesabah

I haven't seen the new info, but if the evidence is there, then a criminal charge is in order. A conviction will make her case against Alaska a slam dunk.

The way I see it, the case against Alaska isn't really the point here. A lawsuit was filed as a falling out resulting from the company's inappropriate handling of the situation. Whether I believe all the details or not, there is enough evidence to clearly see his misconduct along with how he took advantage of his position of authority. He should've been let go early on to set a good precedent and to avoid this situation (or worse) from happening again. They failed at their responsibility in that and that is why they are in court many months later. This isn't just Alaska vs Piña, it's also a closer look into the standards of our colleagues and leaders in our profession.

04-05-2018 | 04:57 AM

#538

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Originally Posted by Lugar

Witness statements. Notice, plural.

So, still no proof and a bunch of #metoo statements. Gotcha.

04-05-2018 | 06:30 AM

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Lugar

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Originally Posted by crxpilot

So, still no proof and a bunch of #metoo statements. Gotcha.

I don’t know, the guest in the room next door hearing “a woman screaming and yelling stop! Stop right now!” seems like pretty strong evidence of something happening against her will.

04-05-2018 | 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lugar

I don’t know, the guest in the room next door hearing “a woman screaming and yelling stop! Stop right now!” seems like pretty strong evidence of something happening against her will.

I think crx is going to insist upon the 'four adult males of good family and of the Faith testifying in direct witness to the act' required under Sharia law before you will make any headway whatever in his obstinacy to face the reality of what happened. It's so much easier to just blame those damn militant feminists.

In any event, it's not the guys fault. The perfidy of women goes all the way back to Eve. I'm sure those are his sentiments.