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04-05-2018 | 07:39 AM
#541
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Did the guest hear this and do nothing?
04-05-2018 | 08:06 AM
#542
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From: Boeing voice activated systems and ACARS commander
04-05-2018 | 08:07 AM
#543
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And what if he/she did? Even cops are hesitant about getting involved in a domestic dispute, especially a drunken domestic dispute where they can take fire from either side. Do you expect every anonymous hotel room guest to play the part of Sir Lancelot and break down the door to come to the aid of the damsel in distress? Or even call hotel management or the cops?
It ain't gonna happen.
It ain't gonna happen.
04-05-2018 | 08:12 AM
#544
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The guest heard the altercation and called hotel security who went to the room. This was just after 1 AM. Ther was no answer at the door and it was assumed by the hotel security officer that it was an inaccurate report.
04-05-2018 | 08:13 AM
#545
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I think crx is going to insist upon the 'four adult males of good family and of the Faith testifying in direct witness to the act' required under Sharia law before you will make any headway whatever in his obstinacy to face the reality of what happened. It's so much easier to just blame those damn militant feminists.
In any event, it's not the guys fault. The perfidy of women goes all the way back to Eve. I'm sure those are his sentiments.
In any event, it's not the guys fault. The perfidy of women goes all the way back to Eve. I'm sure those are his sentiments.
The captain can simply say they were drinking for hours, she got drunk, and disorderly, he dragged her up to his room to sober her up to prevent the company from being embarrassed, and she fought him along the way. He can claim no sexual assault took place, and her fighting with him was to get back to the bar, etc.
This is why a criminal investigation is necessary.
04-05-2018 | 08:24 AM
#546
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Like I said before, I think she exaggerated the events of the night, and that may hurt her case. Something clearly happened, but the evidence doesn't support her being drugged unconscious after two glasses of wine. There is still three plus hours missing from the timeline, and now several witnesses describing them fighting with each other.
The captain can simply say they were drinking for hours, she got drunk, and disorderly, he dragged her up to his room to sober her up to prevent the company from being embarrassed, and she fought him along the way. He can claim no sexual assault took place, and her fighting with him was to get back to the bar, etc.
This is why a criminal investigation is necessary.
The captain can simply say they were drinking for hours, she got drunk, and disorderly, he dragged her up to his room to sober her up to prevent the company from being embarrassed, and she fought him along the way. He can claim no sexual assault took place, and her fighting with him was to get back to the bar, etc.
This is why a criminal investigation is necessary.
He has no right to compel her to go to his room - drunk or sober - 'to prevent the company from being embarrassed.'
My God, man, can't you see that your excuse is no excuse at all. It's at best an admission to a lesser charge of felonious assault and battery. Alaska can't allow anyone who thinks that is proper conduct to be employed by them - certainly not in any position of authority.
Who do you work for, by the way? You think your employer would be OK with you assaulting a woman to avoid embarrassing the company?
04-05-2018 | 08:32 AM
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The pilot certainly can CLAIM that, but in order to claim that he is admitting to assault and battery. Admitting he committed a FELONY.
He has no right to compel her to go to his room - drunk or sober - 'to prevent the company from being embarrassed.'
My God, man, can't you see that your excuse is no excuse at all. It's at best an admission to a lesser charge of felonious assault and battery. Alaska can't allow anyone who thinks that is proper conduct to be employed by them - certainly not in any position of authority.
Who do you work for, by the way? You think your employer would be OK with you assaulting a woman to avoid embarrassing the company?
He has no right to compel her to go to his room - drunk or sober - 'to prevent the company from being embarrassed.'
My God, man, can't you see that your excuse is no excuse at all. It's at best an admission to a lesser charge of felonious assault and battery. Alaska can't allow anyone who thinks that is proper conduct to be employed by them - certainly not in any position of authority.
Who do you work for, by the way? You think your employer would be OK with you assaulting a woman to avoid embarrassing the company?
BTW, if you interview at Delta, they will ask you about a drunk crewmemeber, and you could bomb your interview if you don't say you would help protect the company.
04-05-2018 | 08:34 AM
#548
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He’s toast. The elevator video shows him trying to kiss her (she pushes him away, or tries to). He then reaches for her crotch as the elevator door opens on their floor. This is where the FA that called the company saw them. They don’t exit the elevator, the door closes, and he pushes her against the corner and tries to kiss her again while grabbing her left breast. She sort of makes a motion to knee him between the legs in attempt to get him away, and the door opens again (presumably because the FA pressed the elevator button to go up or down, and the car was still on the same floor). THIS is when he brings her off the elevator and into his room (which takes 14 minutes, according to the report).
04-05-2018 | 08:37 AM
#549
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Rumor has it that in addition to Alaska's new training program they are actively going after ANY pilot who has any kind of complaint against him in the past.
Trying (belatedly) to clean house before the case gets to court?
Trying (belatedly) to clean house before the case gets to court?
04-05-2018 | 08:39 AM
#550
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The captain can simply say they were drinking for hours, she got drunk, and disorderly, he dragged her up to his room to sober her up to prevent the company from being embarrassed, and she fought him along the way. He can claim no sexual assault took place, and her fighting with him was to get back to the bar, etc.
This is why a criminal investigation is necessary.
For all we know the local jurisdiction already considered and rejected criminal charges due to lack of evidence or lack of a solid case.
There are jurisdiction issues here. Maybe her attorney wanted to sue the company and not the CA because he's admitted in WA, not MN. Anything between the two pilots, civil or criminal, would be in MN jurisdiction since that's where it happened. Employer/ employee matters would be in WA.
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