If you have to ask, it REALLY makes my point. Clearly jetliner 1526 gets it. Apparently you are less insightful than him/her.

 

What is known:

PE (Capt who was named by Pena) did get fired.

Pena and another Capt were removed from a flight from the islands back to mainland.

And I agree that no one has ALL the info.

Baja.

 

Okay. But being removed from a flight could be for any reason, could it not? People saying that it was for the exact same situation sounds like a huge stretch. They could have been removed for legality issues. There could have been a conflict about the prior situation. It could be anything, and is unlikely to be relevant to the Pena situation at all.

Maybe you guys are never revised or removed from flights, but it happens at my company all the time. Moving people around, block time different than planned, trip change, deadhead added, deadhead deleted.

 

None of what you describe happens at alaska. If they were both removed and replaced on an Overnight and had to DH back on the flight they were supposed to work, there are very few reasons for that. 95% of the time, alcohol is a primary factor.

 

Wow. I can't imagine anyone at my company drinking within the window and keeping their job, even one time. And you guys have flight attendants there to report it. Why risk it?

 

I don’t have an answer to that other than to say Alcoholism, for some, is an insurmountable problem.

 

There is the rare situation where there’s a CRM issue with the front end crew. Now a days, in said circumstances, the front end crew is replaced, then DH’d back to base.

 

We also have that happen occasionally. Generally when an fo says they refuse to fly with this captain anymore, that the personality conflict is a safety of flight issue. We've had some truly abrasive personalities, for sure.

I can easily see the potential for conflict with this fo. If she flies with a captain who tells her she's a liar who got his friend fired.....that's a serious CRM problem. Many possibilities for conflict here.

 

But you'd think that would happen BEFORE the first leg to Lihue unless they got into it enroute.

 

Absolutely. Just from some of the more rabid postings on this thread who have already stated they would refuse to fly with her at all. It's easy enough to envision a few comments degenerating into an "I won't fly with this flaming *********" situation, and unless someone kept the cockpit audio it would be impossible for the CP and HR to sort out the he said-she said.

For that matter, HR and legal might be frightened half to death that the young lady, WHO IS ALREADY SUING THE COMPANY, might be very happy to fly with - and record - the most misogynist pilots in the company to bolster her case and to demonstrate the company is NOT providing her with a workplace free of misogynist comments.

I imagine Alaska HR and management will be treading softly with this young lady until there is some resolution ACCEPTABLE TO HER and even then, if she remains in Alaska's employ, they will be falling all over themselves to investigate every allegation she makes about every male coworker who offends her. Given the level of hatred leveled at her in some of these posts, it ought to be interesting times - in the Chinese curse sense of the expression.