I'm calling it. We're geting bought.
08-06-2018, 12:07 PM
#51
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,370
Originally Posted by Jetlife
I doubt it, if scope isn't violated and both parties vote it in, it shouldn't cost them anything... UAL could dump the 190s and take the Airbus only, done deal.
08-06-2018, 12:12 PM
#52
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,919
Originally Posted by Baradium
Jet Blue scope requires no outside flying and United has a lot of it. The United pilots are smart enough to at least take advantage of that to get something from the company. So yes, scope would be violated unless ALPA agreed to change scope.
08-06-2018, 12:14 PM
#53
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: fifi whisperer
Posts: 1,255
Originally Posted by Jetlife
The no outside flying from a scope standpoint is completely irrelevant. If JB is acquired by United, they are 100% mainline and would adhere to United's scope clause.
We would need to get a Joint CBA (since it would be ALPA-ALPA) and that document would have scope limits.
08-06-2018, 12:20 PM
#54
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,919
Originally Posted by seekingblue
Sort of.
We would need to get a Joint CBA (since it would be ALPA-ALPA) and that document would have scope limits.
We would need to get a Joint CBA (since it would be ALPA-ALPA) and that document would have scope limits.
08-06-2018, 04:02 PM
#55
Line holder
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: On the bus,seat 0A
Posts: 3,228
Originally Posted by seekingblue
Sort of.
We would need to get a Joint CBA (since it would be ALPA-ALPA) and that document would have scope limits.
We would need to get a Joint CBA (since it would be ALPA-ALPA) and that document would have scope limits.
08-06-2018, 07:10 PM
#56
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 531
Originally Posted by symbian simian
I'm going to go out on a limb here, but if you offered a UAL contract to B6 pilots, and they get to keep DOH for pay, and get stapled for seniority, I wouldn't be surprised if it passes. Don't think scope would be the major issue.
08-06-2018, 08:08 PM
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by Clear Right
No way a B6 pilot would give up seniority for UAL $264/hr A320 vs B6 $259/hr A320, unless I’m missing something on pay rates? Why would you give up seniority for $5 an hour?
08-06-2018, 08:36 PM
#58
Line holder
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: On the bus,seat 0A
Posts: 3,228
Originally Posted by Clear Right
No way a B6 pilot would give up seniority for UAL $264/hr A320 vs B6 $259/hr A320, unless I’m missing something on pay rates? Why would you give up seniority for $5 an hour?
08-07-2018, 07:05 AM
#59
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 91
Originally Posted by symbian simian
I'm going to go out on a limb here, but if you offered a UAL contract to B6 pilots, and they get to keep DOH for pay, and get stapled for seniority, I wouldn't be surprised if it passes. Don't think scope would be the major issue.
Not a chance. Wouldn’t trade QOL for anything.
08-07-2018, 07:55 AM
#60
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: fifi whisperer
Posts: 1,255
Originally Posted by keysersose
Not a chance. Wouldn’t trade QOL for anything.
Many (most) Jetblue guys re either ex regional guys like myself or they are Usair guys who got furloughed. I this this changes our perspective.
I’ve been on the other side of the fence and seen how lack of scope hurts mainline jobs and mainline QOL.
If United were to buy us, we would be an even more divided pilot group. The bottom 1/2 of the list would be overjoyed that they can upgrade and fly heavy metal. The top 1/2 would be ****ed that they are going to get shafted on seniority integration. Sort of a win/lose depending on seniority
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
