This from a almost-scab pilot group? Where to begin, hmmm. You chose to go work for a start up airline which paid sub par wages with no contract - an airline who’s sole purpose was to go head to head with the big boys and failed miserably. What did you stand up for in your mere 10 years of existence? Your pilot group saw a buyout on the horizon and went to bed with ALPA to save your skin. You didn’t even have a contract to vote on. Yeah, show them Alaska boys how it’s done bro.:rolleyes:

Scope... not worth the paper it’s written on.
 

I have almost 15 years as an Alpa supporter, PAC contributor (even before VX was unionized) and also some volunteer time at two different ALPA carriers. How about you?

Embraer pitches new E2 regional jet for AS
 

"Alaska Air Group would be an ideal buyer and operator of Embraer's new E2 regional jet, the Brazilian jet maker's top airplane salesman said.

Embraer Commercial Aircraft's vice president of marketing, Rodrigo Silva e Souza, made the remarks as he spoke to reporters at Embraer's facility at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport.

According to a report by Flight Global, Souza highlighted several reasons why Alaska and rivals Spirit Airlines and United Airlines would be smart to acquire E2s, saying the aircraft's low trip cost could enable the airlines to successfully expand into smaller, undeveloped markets.

The E2 is an ideal replacement for Boeing 737-700 single aisle jets and also Airbus A319s, Souza added.

SeaTac-based Alaska currently operates 11 Boeing 737-700 jets, which feature 124 seats. Souza also mentioned 10 Airbus A319 jets Alaska now operates which it inherited from Virgin America as potential replacement candidates.

"The E2 is different from anything else on the market," Souza told reporters. "It's a completely new aircraft."

He pointed to its new wing design, flying technology, efficient Pratt & Whitney geared turbofan engines, two-by-two seating in the cabin and Embraer's customer support network as reasons to buy.

Embraer's new E2 line of jets, which includes the recently certified E190-E2 and the in-development E175-E2 and E195-E2, offers airlines models with between 76 and 146 seats.

Flight Global reported Alaska hasn't expressed interest in E2s so far, saying the airline is instead focused on taking delivery of the current model E175s it's already ordered.

Alaska regional carrier Horizon Air operates 15 Embraer E175 jets and 44 Bombardier Q400s. It aims to have 30 E175 jets in service and just 30 Bombardier Q400s by the end of 2019.

Embraer's shark-faced E2 was at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport Monday.

The E2 is facing tough competition from the Airbus A220, which is the rebranded former Bombardier CSeries regional jet.

Airbus took over the Quebec-made aircraft program, renamed it and plans to manufacture it in the U.S.

Souza said United has recently added more regional flights, especially from smaller cities, to help the airline carry more connecting passengers from its hubs.

"The E2 could have an important role for United," Souza reportedly said. "The size of the aircraft ... [is] perfect to develop those new routes, and to have a higher profitability."

Sales of Embraer's new E2 jet have been slow, but the Brazilian company unwrapped several orders at the Farnborough International Airshow this summer.

Souza expects E2 sales to pick up in 2019."

I'm guessing all at some two bit regionals who could care less about Scope?
Sorry, I have no union "volunteer" experience since my first airline gig was at Alaska which was very brief and I'm new to my second airline, another legacy carrier. While you were wining and dining on union dues, I was keeping you and your family safe. So, what's your excuse for working for a non-unionized undercutting start up airline that didn't make it through infancy?

work4life:
Vx was non union for its first few years then voted in ALPA and was working towards a good first contract. Would we have secured a good first CBA? I don’t know, look at Jetblue and decide. A lot of us hired here were hired during a downturn in the industry, the majors weren’t calling like they are now. But your just a newbie to the airlines so I understand your complete lack of knowledge. It wasn’t to long ago that Usair, UAL, CAL, JB and others had crappy rates and gutted pensions and contracts. They’ve now fought to recapture a lot that was lost in the late 90’s and 2000’s while you were out keeping our country safe, and I thank you for that. But please don’t dare call us “almost scab-like”. That word is for one thing and one thing only. Don’t ever forget that, pal. There’s a LOT of former ALPA legacy carrier folks here who’ve had their careers pulled out from under them and made the move to Virgin in the 2006-2010 and on timeframe to rebuild what they lost. Now we have to all come together and collectively move Alaska on to a better future for all. We will fight hard for contract 2020. They have nearly 900 ****ed off and engaged “scab-like” pilots, as you so cowardly called us, joining the Alaska ranks and we are ready to fight for contract we all deserve. .. rant over

Thank you for your service..........Now shut your pie hole! (He said in jest because I feel you are the type that would not get it)

"You're welcome for my service" :D

Keep jerking yourself off.

Congrats at your new gig. And seriously, thank you for your service, but there’s a decent number of folks on the VX side who lost their “retirement” gig and needed a J.O.B. They paid their dues. They did volunteer work. They’ve walked the line. To insinuate that all the people from Virgin were “scab-like” is laughable. “Scab-like” is a term best used for MEC leadership that negotiates a sweetheart management deal while selling their constituents down the river which, as I understand it isn’t a foreign concept at Alaska.

A LOT of our VX brethren know what it takes to FIGHT for an appropriate contract. I’m ready to lock arms with my VX brethren ANY day.

You have some valid arguments and I’ll retract my scab comment. However, I find it commical when ex VA pilots spout off on here about how they are going to enforce the contract and teach this weak pilot group how things are going to change when you yourselves are willing to bend the contract on a whim if it benefits you. PBS until March? Really?
I still have a few friends at Alaska and wish all of you the best in 2020. Whiners and cry babies like OCDPee can perhaps put their words into action instead of blaming the Alaska pilot group, considering none of you were there when things went down in ‘05, ‘08, and ‘13.

And there ya go! THIS person gets it.

Alaska pilots, look at yourselves in the mirror.

There is no excusing no scope for a union carrier, especially one that’s been around as long as Alaska.