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flysnoopy76 02-24-2019 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by Mercury624 (Post 2769875)
Alaska likes to keep a young fleet and they're trying to aggressively expand. They haven't announced plans yet for the Airbuses but even if they were going to get rid of them it would take a while. There just aren't enough 737's out there to be snatched up and there isn't any room in Boeing's production output for a large order to be made for quick delivery.

Plus, they're still getting a couple more Airbuses delivered.

Aggressively expand? Growth is planned at 2% this year, and that’s Air Group so think Horizon and Skywest.

Foodstamps 02-27-2019 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by flysnoopy76 (Post 2769914)
Aggressively expand? Growth is planned at 2% this year, and that’s Air Group so think Horizon and Skywest.

Yeah, "aggressive" means nothing from AAG. Any expansion is in seat capacity or regional flying, not mainline getting more actual airframes. You can see it in the company financial docs and fleet plan statements with lease returns.

Sincerely hope we get bought by a company with more vision and less "special sauce" 🙄

Flyboy8784 02-28-2019 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by Foodstamps (Post 2771631)
Yeah, "aggressive" means nothing from AAG. Any expansion is in seat capacity or regional flying, not mainline getting more actual airframes. You can see it in the company financial docs and fleet plan statements with lease returns.

Sincerely hope we get bought by a company with more vision and less "special sauce" 🙄

I think SWA getting their ETOPS approval is gonna be a game changer....even though mgmt claims they aren't worried. Methinks they are quiet screaming expletives over this.

Spooledup 02-28-2019 08:07 AM

Management said they aren’t worried “because Southwest isn’t known for their customer service”. Heard it with my own ears.

flysnoopy76 02-28-2019 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Flyboy8784 (Post 2772151)
I think SWA getting their ETOPS approval is gonna be a game changer....even though mgmt claims they aren't worried. Methinks they are quiet screaming expletives over this.

We also have an award winning fruit and cheese plate

450knotOffice 02-28-2019 11:56 AM

I’m still not so sure that hoardes of customers will want to sit on a 5.5 to 6.5 hour SWA flight. Most people I know can’t stand their cabin for more than an hour or two.

So I’m not yet convinced that they’re going to have a huge impact in that market.

echelon 02-28-2019 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 2772340)
I’m still not so sure that hoardes of customers will want to sit on a 5.5 to 6.5 hour SWA flight. Most people I know can’t stand their cabin for more than an hour or two.

So I’m not yet convinced that they’re going to have a huge impact in that market.

Not like Alaska's cabin is noticeably more comfortable for the majority of people and even if it is, people still usually buy the cheapest flight.

navigatro 02-28-2019 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 2772340)
I’m still not so sure that hoardes of customers will want to sit on a 5.5 to 6.5 hour SWA flight. Most people I know can’t stand their cabin for more than an hour or two.

So I’m not yet convinced that they’re going to have a huge impact in that market.

"hoardes of customers" fly coach on AA/UA/DL on 7 to 15 hour international flights, in seats with less pitch than Southwest.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that SWA will have no problem filling seats to Hawaii.

PNWFlyer 02-28-2019 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 2772495)
"hoardes of customers" fly coach on AA/UA/DL on 7 to 15 hour international flights, in seats with less pitch than Southwest.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that SWA will have no problem filling seats to Hawaii.

What SWA flights to Hawaii? They said they would announce ticket sales right after receiving approval. Instead they announced the are suing their mechanics.

Southwest sues mechanics union for taking too many planes out of service.

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3438930

450knotOffice 02-28-2019 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 2772495)
"hoardes of customers" fly coach on AA/UA/DL on 7 to 15 hour international flights, in seats with less pitch than Southwest.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that SWA will have no problem filling seats to Hawaii.

Maybe. their seats are 17" wide vs. AA's 18" on their 321's.

Inflight entertainment doesn't quite match up. Free movies vs. a fee for each movie on SWA.

We'll see. I think they're just going to be another player in the market. That's all.


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