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Originally Posted by Vincent Chase
(Post 2777821)
Wow. Just.....wow. I'd love to fly with you if I was a pilot that came from a company that sold itself without any input from me or any of the pilot group. I'd really like flying with you. Not.
Come to think of it, if I was AS straight from the start, It would be like being on day 9 with you on the second day. Do you ever self-reflect? Right, any L-VX pilot with any brain at all knew that place was for sale from the day it opened its doors, you all went there drinking the red Koolaid. |
Leave OTZ alone. He likes his job and he's ANC based. ANC is a completely different experience than the rest of the system. Pilots and F/As are close knit and there's a genuine family atmosphere up there.
It's totally different from the sham "We are family" B.S. Angle Lake attempts to foist on the rank and file. Take a tour or two through the ANC base and you'll see for yourself. |
All of southwests movies and television are free now and they have free texting without having to purchase WiFi.
People routinely fly southwest from the East Coast to the west coast, why wouldn’t they fly it the same length to Hawaii? The answer is they will. The difference between Alaska’s service and Southwests is becoming less and less. “West Coast Vibe” isn’t enough to win over the consumer.
Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
(Post 2772566)
Maybe. their seats are 17" wide vs. AA's 18" on their 321's.
Inflight entertainment doesn't quite match up. Free movies vs. a fee for each movie on SWA. We'll see. I think they're just going to be another player in the market. That's all. |
Midwest Vibe circa 1996
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Originally Posted by Ala5ka
(Post 2778287)
All of southwests movies and television are free now and they have free texting without having to purchase WiFi.
People routinely fly southwest from the East Coast to the west coast, why wouldn’t they fly it the same length to Hawaii? The answer is they will. The difference between Alaska’s service and Southwests is becoming less and less. “West Coast Vibe” isn’t enough to win over the consumer. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2778440)
There's a demographic which just doesn't fly on SWA, and it includes most of my peers in the white-collar world, and most people much older than 60. That could change of course, but it would take time and effort.
Effort? Not so much. Those over 60s will be over 70s in ten years with or without much effort on the part of SWA. :p |
Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 2777829)
Leave OTZ alone. He likes his job and he's ANC based. ANC is a completely different experience than the rest of the system. Pilots and F/As are close knit and there's a genuine family atmosphere up there.
It's totally different from the sham "We are family" B.S. Angle Lake attempts to foist on the rank and file. Take a tour or two through the ANC base and you'll see for yourself. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2778440)
There's a demographic which just doesn't fly on SWA, and it includes most of my peers in the white-collar world, and most people much older than 60. That could change of course, but it would take time and effort. SWA has carved out it's niche (it's a good one) but there are plenty of folks who don't care for it.
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Originally Posted by Klsytakesit
(Post 2778972)
As a union member, as labor , as a uniform wearer you are actually “ blue collar”. Plenty of other blue collar union members that have nothing to do with aviation that match our salaries and exceed our benefits and retirements. You likely just meant that you socialize and live around white collar people. And those people prefer the Delta or Hawaiin experience to the Southwest or Alaska experience.
Many doctors get paid by the hour and work shifts, nobody confuses them with plumbers either. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2779228)
Our profession resembles blue collar in many respects, but it is fundamentally a profession not a trade, and thus white collar.
Many doctors get paid by the hour and work shifts, nobody confuses them with plumbers either. |
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