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Old 02-20-2020 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudhen200
I bet it will go senior Boeing drivers bidding over to the new bus base.
for the senior people to get out of their comfort zone and relearn to fly a plane that do everything the opposite way.
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Old 02-21-2020 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by poutine
for the senior people to get out of their comfort zone and relearn to fly a plane that do everything the opposite way.
Classic piece of hyperbole there about the Airbus doing everything the opposite way. Lol

For some, adjusting to the "SCARE BUS" as some people call it, could inject some fun and excitement into the last few years of their career.

I'm sure there's more than enough guys in the first 400ish of legacy AS guys who are senior to what was the most senior VX guy before SLI, who'd be willing to fill the majority of those initial slots.

After all, flying the same type, messing with those knobs and switches on an antiquated panel for the last 20 to 30 years does get old, so the appeal of a newer, sexier, not to mention much roomier flight deck, might just be too hard to resist.
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Old 02-21-2020 | 07:53 AM
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Real question.its always the exact same people posting here and the other forum. Maybe 20-30 people tops.. i would agree that with those 30 change would come but from the other 2970+ pilots is there really enough support not to vote yes due to one carrot that management throws that’s shiny enough to distract from the same old
same nonsense? I honestly think that this next contract is going to be as bad as the current one with one or two improvements. I don’t think the outrage of the 30
quite matches the tone of the rest of the group. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t see this ending well for us
Originally Posted by Mudhen200
They can hope all they want but I doubt that will happen. With the bus doing more and more of the west coast, nice turns or two day trips out of SEA, I bet it will go senior Boeing drivers bidding over to the new bus base. As you suggest, I also think our negotiations will grind to a halt in the next week or two after the final cards are laid on the table by our negotiating committee. The hourly rate alone will give B&B a cold shiver, not to mention the scope, schedule and retirement proposals. Sooner or LATER, I think they will figure out that we are serious. I think it's going to be a long road boys, but worth it in the end.
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Old 02-21-2020 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Flaps1check
Anyone feel the planning room is a bunch of people throwing darts at an idea board.
Hahaha, they did that at VX as well... popular game apparently
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Old 02-21-2020 | 09:53 AM
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How do you open up 3 bids of 25 crews and add 150 Airbus up in SEA without any affect on the size of SEA 737? And what does this mean for the SFO bus base?
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Old 02-21-2020 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
How do you open up 3 bids of 25 crews and add 150 Airbus up in SEA without any affect on the size of SEA 737? And what does this mean for the SFO bus base?
75 CA’s and 75 FO’s only accounts for about 14 Airbuses. As indicated in the email, it’s called growing SEA. In the end these r just ‘base’ numbers since we already have quite a few Airbus departures now...
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Old 02-21-2020 | 12:13 PM
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I’m glad SEA is growing. It’s way under utilized.
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Old 02-21-2020 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Flaps1check
Anyone feel the planning room is a bunch of people throwing darts at an idea board. MEA where were you on that one dip****!(Happy Gilmore reference before anyone melts down)
I actually did... it got deleted? I guess some other comments “were not above board”... I honestly didn’t think it was likely until the decision was made early this week and then rushed out. My opinion is they did this well before the bid posting to create waves for the union. This I think is a result of how far apart we are on a contract and the company is just starting to dig in. I think the bus might be here a year or two longer now. Last bus base will be Seattle now. Who knows though... change is the only constant. I think there is a good chance SEA 737 base contracts slightly too over the next 24 months.

65-70 CA/FO’s SEA based by next spring

still 20% chance they cancel this thing if they don’t like how it turns out for them.

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Old 02-21-2020 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000

65-70 CA/FO’s SEA based by next spring
That's not really a prediction, the email pretty much states that.
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Old 02-21-2020 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MinRest
I’m glad SEA is growing. It’s way under utilized.
Seattle isn't growing; there are already an insane number of airbus crews overnighting in Seattle every night and its going to get worse this summer. The company is going to save a lot on hotel costs, have reserves where they need to be, and reduce their staffing requirement. Anyone who was paying attention to how much flying was being done out of Seattle should have seen this coming.

The good news is that the remaining airbus pilots should see better trips and might not have to fly into Seattle as much.
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