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flysnoopy76 10-22-2020 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by ElCaribe (Post 3148532)
If true; your timing is off. With an effective date if 4/1 and training beginning much earlier they would have to furlough May 1 at the earliest. Things have to be pretty bad going into summer for them to make that move. Unless of course they cancel this bid. With that being said the EILs have to come back with a position bid and have 45 day notice. It all depends on those variables.

Fair enough, just expressing my thought that basically as the various leaves end, the furloughs will start.

miker1 10-22-2020 11:40 AM

The airline is doing better than many of you are giving it credit for

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NewGuy01 10-22-2020 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by miker1 (Post 3148617)
The airline is doing better than many of you are giving it credit for

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Yeah they are hiring pilots again at Horizon. Oh wait...


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AK22 10-22-2020 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by flysnoopy76 (Post 3148452)
My guess is Alaska furloughs when the first round of 6 month EILs end (March), and will continue to furlough as necessary as each EIL round expires.

There is absolutely nothing that would indicate what you’re saying will happen, in fact during the call today they said the trend is good and they’re planning on being up to 80% of pre-Covid traffic by summer ‘21. Which is what the leave program is built around.
Of course things could get worse, but they can also dramatically improve, especially as fear subsided and data shows that this disease is not particularly dangerous to the vast majority of people.
In my anecdotal experiences, the Seatac seems to be quite a bit more busy lately. Flights to Mexico have been at or near restricted capacity...people are trying to get back to normal in spite of onerous government restrictions.

flysnoopy76 10-22-2020 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by AK22 (Post 3148695)
There is absolutely nothing that would indicate what you’re saying will happen, in fact during the call today they said the trend is good and they’re planning on being up to 80% of pre-Covid traffic by summer ‘21. Which is what the leave program is built around.
Of course things could get worse, but they can also dramatically improve, especially as fear subsided and data shows that this disease is not particularly dangerous to the vast majority of people.
In my anecdotal experiences, the Seatac seems to be quite a bit more busy lately. Flights to Mexico have been at or near restricted capacity...people are trying to get back to normal in spite of onerous government restrictions.

Time will tell, I think much will depend on how the public reacts to cases as they increase through the winter.

miker1 10-22-2020 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by NewGuy01 (Post 3148626)
Yeah they are hiring pilots again at Horizon. Oh wait...


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I'm not making any statements about scope. There's a group here that seems to thinks furloughs are eminent. They are not.

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OTZeagle1 10-22-2020 04:57 PM

I would put a furlough probability at 20% right now. Every indication I have received has been that we are about on target for our expected recovery.

ElCaribe 10-22-2020 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by flysnoopy76 (Post 3148594)
Fair enough, just expressing my thought that basically as the various leaves end, the furloughs will start.

I don’t think the company has any reason to wait for leaves to end if they wanted to furlough. EIL pilots are considered active pilots.

Cruz5350 10-22-2020 11:32 PM

I didn’t realize how many eeyores we have working with us, complaining about how unfair the EIL awards went seems beyond trivial... check your 10/9 paycheck and ask yourself how many other airlines got that. Your screen name is very fitting... you’re the “new guy” seniority reigns in this industry.

ShyGuy 10-23-2020 01:55 AM

I believe we’ll be the only airline (Air Group) in the country getting a profit share check for 2020.


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