Additional Max Order Rumored
11-14-2020 | 09:52 PM
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Middle seats unblocked allows reduction of active aircraft which will drive up load factor towards breakeven. It also allows a reduction in active payroll which also helps with break even. Ben will reduce the size of the airline down to break even for sure. If a Max order comes it will not be for growth. Likely for each Max that arrives a couple 320’s will leave. A couple years of that will stop the hemorrhaging and by 2024 we should start climbing out of the hole....Just another normal decade in the airline business
11-15-2020 | 05:53 AM
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Middle seats unblocked allows reduction of active aircraft which will drive up load factor towards breakeven. It also allows a reduction in active payroll which also helps with break even. Ben will reduce the size of the airline down to break even for sure. If a Max order comes it will not be for growth. Likely for each Max that arrives a couple 320’s will leave. A couple years of that will stop the hemorrhaging and by 2024 we should start climbing out of the hole....Just another normal decade in the airline business
11-15-2020 | 06:55 AM
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[QUOTE=NewGuy01;3158956]
Facts. Facts are totally fair. The industry is swirling around the toilet bowl. I don’t dispute that for a second. In fact I think is fairly reasonable to be prepared for a really bad employment outcome based on the numbers for Q3.
Claiming you’re an insider and saying flight ops is actively planning a furlough is a completely different thing. It’s what I was referring to when I said garbage. MEA claimed to know that flight ops was actively planning a furlough. That’s what I’m taking about.
It’s also what our Union MEC said about OTZ when he was citing the exact percentage of the pilot group that was getting furloughed, to the tenth of a percent. It’s just garbage. Some self important troll wants to feel important about themselves so they come here and spew garbage.
It’s really pathetic.
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So what was the number of letters going out latter that week, until WM and the union jumped over flight ops to ST.... I think that number I have seen somewhere before. Ask the union for the number, they know it too. You sir are slooooow.
Facts. Facts are totally fair. The industry is swirling around the toilet bowl. I don’t dispute that for a second. In fact I think is fairly reasonable to be prepared for a really bad employment outcome based on the numbers for Q3.
Claiming you’re an insider and saying flight ops is actively planning a furlough is a completely different thing. It’s what I was referring to when I said garbage. MEA claimed to know that flight ops was actively planning a furlough. That’s what I’m taking about.
It’s also what our Union MEC said about OTZ when he was citing the exact percentage of the pilot group that was getting furloughed, to the tenth of a percent. It’s just garbage. Some self important troll wants to feel important about themselves so they come here and spew garbage.
It’s really pathetic.
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11-15-2020 | 09:47 AM
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Keep undermining the Union... let’s see how that works out for you.
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Keep undermining the Union... let’s see how that works out for you.
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11-15-2020 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mea25000
Company plans to be 10-15% smaller in 2021. Company is also going to ask for a 18 month, 10 percent pay cut from the pilot group this fall. I think OTZ-Brown’s numbers are pretty good. I also agree that people should have all available information. For those that don’t know, OTZ was once furloughed, I am confident he understands its tragic impact.
remember this from April... two days ago M says we are now growing... JL says growing today. 237 -15% = 201... .... yeah newguy, draw down on M. Terribly inaccurate, new guy... what you got, please try.
Company plans to be 10-15% smaller in 2021. Company is also going to ask for a 18 month, 10 percent pay cut from the pilot group this fall. I think OTZ-Brown’s numbers are pretty good. I also agree that people should have all available information. For those that don’t know, OTZ was once furloughed, I am confident he understands its tragic impact.
remember this from April... two days ago M says we are now growing... JL says growing today. 237 -15% = 201... .... yeah newguy, draw down on M. Terribly inaccurate, new guy... what you got, please try.
11-15-2020 | 01:38 PM
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Id keep in my mind how quickly and how often the plan here changes, with the reported case numbers and states locking down the furlough threat won’t disappear for quite some time, but yes, his email today is good news.
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