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OTZeagle1 10-12-2020 05:16 PM

They are looking at 7’s... I would put it at unlikely. I think it makes a lot of sense but I also think SFO should remain open as a Boeing base. Hopefully, the order comes out with 7,8,9, and 10’s. I hear it’s 40 firm new, plus the old 37 order, plus 88 options 😂. Good news, we are hoping to take every option. Numbers right now I heard are 37 8’s, 40 9’s. All the options are 9’s, convertible to 10’s.

Humbucker 10-12-2020 05:50 PM

I’m one of the the cross bidders, Boeing to Bus. Held out on the first few bids as SD and others were saying 737 Bay Area base soon....well That didn’t happen. I’m assuming it was a co-term issue but fingers are crossed we can keep SFO as a 737 base.

Back2future 10-12-2020 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Humbucker (Post 3144328)
I’m one of the the cross bidders, Boeing to Bus. Held out on the first few bids as SD and others were saying 737 Bay Area base soon....well That didn’t happen. I’m assuming it was a co-term issue but fingers are crossed we can keep SFO as a 737 base.

If Alaska does their usual, turn tail and run, routine then Southwest is going to chase us out of the Bay Area to Hawaii markets and that will probably be the end of a long term SFO base. Let’s see if we try to put up a fight in Oakland.

ShyGuy 10-13-2020 12:46 AM

They gave writing on the wall for the SFO base. The only saving grace could be a co-domicile potential, where pilots cover all three SFO, OAK, and SJC. If that doesn’t happen there’s just too many different fleets going into those 3 airports.

9mikemike 10-14-2020 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3144432)
They gave writing on the wall for the SFO base. The only saving grace could be a co-domicile potential, where pilots cover all three SFO, OAK, and SJC. If that doesn’t happen there’s just too many different fleets going into those 3 airports.

There was already a negotiation that failed surrounding a Co-Terminal agreement for the bay area. Our position was to tighten up Co-Terminal language and their’s was to gut it as if it was a gift. So there is that.

OTZeagle1 10-16-2020 02:16 PM

No concessions! I am not interested in subsidizing a MAX order and management stock options. Order planes or don’t order planes, I am not interested in subsidizing growth that may or may not happen. Just remember every MAX they take could result in a return of a NG. If they think they have to furlough to survive, furlough. Our company is solid, we will weather this storm, management has stolen enough from our careers!

NewGuy01 10-16-2020 06:03 PM

The most likely thing to happen will be AG buying a lot more 175s for Horizon...


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flysnoopy76 10-16-2020 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by NewGuy01 (Post 3146236)
The most likely thing to happen will be AG buying a lot more 175s for Horizon...


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.... or 190s

TransWorld 10-16-2020 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by flysnoopy76 (Post 3146251)
.... or 190s

I would not mix metaphors. E175 or bust. Keep aircraft maintenance and parts simple.

ASpilot0936 10-17-2020 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3146179)
No concessions! I am not interested in subsidizing a MAX order and management stock options. Order planes or don’t order planes, I am not interested in subsidizing growth that may or may not happen. Just remember every MAX they take could result in a return of a NG. If they think they have to furlough to survive, furlough. Our company is solid, we will weather this storm, management has stolen enough from our careers!

Who's suggesting concessions? Someone in mamagement?


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