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Jetlikespeed 03-28-2022 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot0936 (Post 3396223)
When is the bid coming out?

Haven’t you heard? Bid always Comes out on a Friday…

OTZeagle1 03-28-2022 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed (Post 3396225)
Haven’t you heard? Bid always Comes out on a Friday…

Last Friday😂…

Honestly, maybe April 1st… I would call it a coin flip.

OTZeagle1 03-28-2022 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3396222)
The word is reserve staffing. Ladner and Day believe removing a base helps solve that problem. Not much more SFO flying planned in the mainline structure and at the level it is now it is not above what pre-merger Alaska was doing with no base ever planned….Those are the numbers and arguments that are in play in the staffing and network arena right now. To close a nearly 90% commuter base is dirt cheap. No one is moving their principal residence. If they open a new SFO/Bay Area base in a year or two they have lost nothing. Alaska flight operations also believes that driving off east coast commuters is a positive thing. Remember, this is a Seattle company and that kind of a move is common strategy in this soulless city.

All very accurate, RSV coverage for a small base is expensive. In case you haven’t noticed, we don’t have a lot of room for wasted RSV coverage… I bet we cancel 300+ flights in APR for lack of pilots.

ChickenFinger 03-28-2022 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by ASpilot0936 (Post 3396223)
When is the bid coming out?

2 Weeks!!!

Rangerover 03-28-2022 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3396222)
The word is reserve staffing. Ladner and Day believe removing a base helps solve that problem. Not much more SFO flying planned in the mainline structure and at the level it is now it is not above what pre-merger Alaska was doing with no base ever planned….Those are the numbers and arguments that are in play in the staffing and network arena right now. To close a nearly 90% commuter base is dirt cheap. No one is moving their principal residence. If they open a new SFO/Bay Area base in a year or two they have lost nothing. Alaska flight operations also believes that driving off east coast commuters is a positive thing. Remember, this is a Seattle company and that kind of a move is common strategy in this soulless city.


This is their staffing solution? These guys never cease to amaze me. Closing a base isn’t going to help attract new hires and will only increase attrition.

ShyGuy 03-28-2022 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3396169)
I don’t see any of this. I doubt more then a couple downgrades… all pretty much voluntary. Upgrade slides maybe towards 5 years. SFO, they can’t make up their mind. They think there are significant crew savings in closing it. I kinda think it will open in the 2nd displacement bid, 1-3 odds still it doesn’t ever open 😱… The back out of SFO is really pretty junior in the CA seat…. Maybe a mid 800 to 900 numbers, could possibly be displaced, but dude that is still really a pretty Junior pilot. I think many will volunteer to prevent themselves from being stuck on RSV at that 8-900 number… which is a solid line holder in every other base. Displacement off the back end is likely 1800-2200 which buys that dude very little. It will be fine! Check back in 45 days… this will be a nonevent, worry about nothing.

I mean, “involuntary downgrades” maybe a few. But bottom line is ALL Bus displacements are going to be California but the Boeing additions are ANC, SEA, PDX, and LAX. LAX is the only common overlap if they don’t open a SFO Boeing base. So LOTS of pilots will have to bid other bases and move or commute just to hold a CA spot. True, it’s technically not “involuntary” by definition to hold a CA spot. But let’s be honest, not being able to hold CA and having to commute is kinda a forced-choice. And displaced not holding CA in current base on any plane and go to another base just to hold CA is also a paid move by definition.

Back2future 03-28-2022 08:26 PM

If I get displaced from 737 captain in LAX I'm bidding Airbus FO. Why not get the extra type rating and ride the Airbus into the sunset. The last people on the bus are going to get paid to stay home for at least a month or two.

av8or 03-28-2022 09:27 PM

Soooo, first…. Honestly, other than contract negotiations/progress I could care less. This place with its epically stupid add campaign, and woke-er than woke garbage is part and parcel of why so many are moving to Red states…… BUT….. Though I know M&A is supposedly off the table, the collective amount of weird shizzle going on these days is epic. SFO - Most west coast after VX merger to Gonna shut down SFO to… Grow SFO to Gonna shut down SFO…. All within the last 4 yrs. BT - Steps down as CEO to be BOD chair to…. “Ya know how bout I just quit the most cushy millions $$ job on the planet…. To spend more time with grandkids.” Horizon - “Let’s start a direct path to Alaska pilot with Horizon”… also, “let’s kill the entire Q-400 program and make Horizon way over staffed.” BM - negotiates a M&A clause to protect himself financially.

Sure does seem like a tightening up of the purse….. getting things trimmed up financially. Yet at the same time claiming growth.

Lots of odd behavior….

ImperialxRat 03-28-2022 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3396238)
All very accurate, RSV coverage for a small base is expensive. In case you haven’t noticed, we don’t have a lot of room for wasted RSV coverage… I bet we cancel 300+ flights in APR for lack of pilots.

Just as long as the media and articles quote it as a pilot shortage, and not as us being the major airline with the worst pay, schedule, job security, and work rules in the industry, then its all gravy baby.

Flaps1check 03-29-2022 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3396169)
I don’t see any of this. I doubt more then a couple downgrades… all pretty much voluntary. Upgrade slides maybe towards 5 years. SFO, they can’t make up their mind. They think there are significant crew savings in closing it. I kinda think it will open in the 2nd displacement bid, 1-3 odds still it doesn’t ever open 😱… The back out of SFO is really pretty junior in the CA seat…. Maybe a mid 800 to 900 numbers, could possibly be displaced, but dude that is still really a pretty Junior pilot. I think many will volunteer to prevent themselves from being stuck on RSV at that 8-900 number… which is a solid line holder in every other base. Displacement off the back end is likely 1800-2200 which buys that dude very little. It will be fine! Check back in 45 days… this will be a nonevent, worry about nothing.

sweet another count down from OTZ. 45 days!
spring
next year
fall
2023
You have really cost me with all the timers I have had to buy for your count downs.


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