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HotDogWater 03-25-2022 07:28 PM

My entire schedule from start to OE. First 3 weeks are basically Mon - Fri and then the Sims are 3-5 days in a row with anywhere from 2-5 days off in between some sessions. I do have one stretch of 7 days of sims.

clearandcold 03-25-2022 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by HotDogWater (Post 3394839)
My entire schedule from start to OE. First 3 weeks are basically Mon - Fri and then the Sims are 3-5 days in a row with anywhere from 2-5 days off in between some sessions. I do have one stretch of 7 days of sims.

I think you’re supposed to have 2 days off every 7 days.

rmcbear08 03-25-2022 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by clearandcold (Post 3394852)
I think you’re supposed to have 2 days off every 7 days.

Every 5 days in a row of training you have to have 2 days “free of company duty.”

They were (and maybe continuing?) to violate that, especially now that people are traveling to/from sims in different locations than SEA.

9mikemike 03-25-2022 10:34 PM

Just another part of training. Teaching new hires to keep their heads down and just take it…..Secret Sauce

ShyGuy 03-26-2022 01:16 AM

Just doing napkin math, 241 mainline aircraft by end of 2023 with with 12 to 12.6 pilots/plane = 2890 to 3050 pilots. We're already above that total. So does hiring come to a stop as we displace 500+ pilots from the Bus to Boeing? The math for crews per plane is quite clear. Unfortunately I see the next 18 months being a re-set.

HotDogWater 03-26-2022 04:56 AM

Actually I was wrong,my longest stretch is 5 days not 7.

Ala5ka 03-26-2022 06:02 AM

You and I agree on this. We will
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”

it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska

Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3394900)
Just doing napkin math, 241 mainline aircraft by end of 2023 with with 12 to 12.6 pilots/plane = 2890 to 3050 pilots. We're already above that total. So does hiring come to a stop as we displace 500+ pilots from the Bus to Boeing? The math for crews per plane is quite clear. Unfortunately I see the next 18 months being a re-set.


flysnoopy76 03-26-2022 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Ala5ka (Post 3394975)
You and I agree on this. We will
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”

it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska

Im glad I’m not the only one who can see reality.
I’d imagine once people start being downgraded and displaced, and the upgrade time goes to more like 8-10 years and reserve is forever, people may leave in higher numbers if the rest of the industry continues to hire while offering good opportunities. That may prevent the possibility of furloughs if we end up 400-500 pilots over staffed.

HotDogWater 03-26-2022 08:20 AM

Where did that 241 aircraft by the end of 2023 come from? I don't see that in any of the reports from the investors conference.

All Bizniz 03-26-2022 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by Ala5ka (Post 3394975)
You and I agree on this. We will
be fat pilots. Hiring will come to a halt. When hiring resumes it’ll likely be entirely horizon people via the pathways program. It’ll be used as a way to continue the argument of “you’re lucky to be here so you’ll be paid less”

it should scare the ever living daylights out of every pilot here how quickly aag decided to chop half their airline when staffing got tough. Might be a canary in the coal mine moment for Alaska


Originally Posted by flysnoopy76 (Post 3395046)
Im glad I’m not the only one who can see reality.
I’d imagine once people start being downgraded and displaced, and the upgrade time goes to more like 8-10 years and reserve is forever, people may leave in higher numbers if the rest of the industry continues to hire while offering good opportunities. That may prevent the possibility of furloughs if we end up 400-500 pilots over staffed.

​​​​Are you implying that the mainline pilots should turn tail and run?


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