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Hot Dog 01-23-2022 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mailmanpilot (Post 3358712)
So I just got a CJO to Alaska. I know things aren’t great with the pilots contract right now, and that sucks. However, I was wondering where I could get any training materials? I’d like to start training a little early but as I understand Alaska won’t hand them out until I first start.

Congratulations, get your free type rating and move onto a Major that pays well and has a great contract.

NotTellin 01-23-2022 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by Mailmanpilot (Post 3358712)
So I just got a CJO to Alaska. I know things aren’t great with the pilots contract right now, and that sucks. However, I was wondering where I could get any training materials? I’d like to start training a little early but as I understand Alaska won’t hand them out until I first start.

Congratulations! Seriously Congratulations! The training is fairly slow paced so no pre learning is required or advised. My only advice would be to keep your apps at the big 5 up to date and don’t turn down any interviews. You will thank me after you’ve been here for 5-6 months.

echelon 01-23-2022 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by Mailmanpilot (Post 3358712)
So I just got a CJO to Alaska. I know things aren’t great with the pilots contract right now, and that sucks. However, I was wondering where I could get any training materials? I’d like to start training a little early but as I understand Alaska won’t hand them out until I first start.

I don't know what fleet you got, and my only experience with the A320 training is pre-merger, but I can tell you that the pace of the 737 program is excruciatingly slow. I understand the compulsion to want to get a head start, come over-prepared, know everything ahead of time, etc (at least to an extent; aren't they going to pay you to learn it on THEIR time?) because other training programs that are more fast paced tend to demand that. Forget all those programs though, and instead come prepared for a very relaxed two and a half months. IF you live in Seattle that is. If you're commuting to training, you'll want to tear your hair out after a couple weeks of wasting time in the hotel because there's nothing left to study but there's still ten Sims left. But hey, if you're commuting to this job, just face the fact that you're already ****ed, so at least you can get a head start on hating this place hahaha!

It's a long program, and it can be frustrating and redundant at times, but having said all of that, never once did I (an extremely lazy underachiever) ever feel unprepared, stressed about what was coming next, unsure of whether I could ask questions or to whom to ask them, nervous about whether I knew enough, etc. I have almost nothing good to say about this place but the one thing that in my opinion deserves credit is the quality of our training. Don't stress out at all about training... Save that high blood pressure for the terrible schedules you get after you're done.

VirginEskimo 01-24-2022 01:23 AM

Hats off to your motivation. I’m not sure if it’s possible but if you really need a head start, you should get a copy of our abomination of a contract and learn it. Learn it so you can fly it and can educate your classmates on it. Being on reserve you will get plenty of situations where knowing that thing inside out would be helpful.

NewGuy01 01-24-2022 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by echelon (Post 3358757)
I don't know what fleet you got, and my only experience with the A320 training is pre-merger, but I can tell you that the pace of the 737 program is excruciatingly slow. I understand the compulsion to want to get a head start, come over-prepared, know everything ahead of time, etc (at least to an extent; aren't they going to pay you to learn it on THEIR time?) because other training programs that are more fast paced tend to demand that. Forget all those programs though, and instead come prepared for a very relaxed two and a half months. IF you live in Seattle that is. If you're commuting to training, you'll want to tear your hair out after a couple weeks of wasting time in the hotel because there's nothing left to study but there's still ten Sims left. But hey, if you're commuting to this job, just face the fact that you're already ****ed, so at least you can get a head start on hating this place hahaha!

It's a long program, and it can be frustrating and redundant at times, but having said all of that, never once did I (an extremely lazy underachiever) ever feel unprepared, stressed about what was coming next, unsure of whether I could ask questions or to whom to ask them, nervous about whether I knew enough, etc. I have almost nothing good to say about this place but the one thing that in my opinion deserves credit is the quality of our training. Don't stress out at all about training... Save that high blood pressure for the terrible schedules you get after you're done.


This is terribly accurate.

Memorize the few rights you have as a pilot on reserve. Two big rules that scheduling tried to break often when I was on reserve: show time is two hours and you can’t be on duty for more than 14 hours.

They call and try to get you to show under two hours and it’s usually for a trip that has more than 14 hours of duty.


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RNO Flyer 03-25-2022 01:47 PM

Is there a break of any sort between indoc and starting aircraft training?

Meekrob 03-25-2022 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by RNO Flyer (Post 3394702)
Is there a break of any sort between indoc and starting aircraft training?

if you unfortunately get sick for one of your OE trips you can expect about a month off before you fly again

RNO Flyer 03-25-2022 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Meekrob (Post 3394705)
if you unfortunately get sick for one of your OE trips you can expect about a month off before you fly again

Any break in training before aircraft classes/sims?

rmcbear08 03-25-2022 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by RNO Flyer (Post 3394710)
Any break in training before aircraft classes/sims?

Depends on sim availability. It’s at redline right now, so you might get some extra days off in between. I just went through and the longest break I had at any point in my footprint was 3 days. Others in my class had a week off before sims. YMMV. OE is being scheduled around a month out right now, so be prepared to sit for a bit after you’re all done.

Plan on some time in PHX for sims. Heard DAL as well? I’m any case, make sure you’re getting your contractual days off if you are traveling. They’ve been illegally scheduling people, so double check to make sure.

Jetlikespeed 03-25-2022 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by rmcbear08 (Post 3394792)
Depends on sim availability. It’s at redline right now, so you might get some extra days off in between. I just went through and the longest break I had at any point in my footprint was 3 days. Others in my class had a week off before sims. YMMV. OE is being scheduled around a month out right now, so be prepared to sit for a bit after you’re all done.

Plan on some time in PHX for sims. Heard DAL as well? I’m any case, make sure you’re getting your contractual days off if you are traveling. They’ve been illegally scheduling people, so double check to make sure.

DAL for Airbus (maybe Boeing soon if they can secure sim time)


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